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Mecha_Dude · 10-19-2002, 06:10 AM

Ok, there was a letter to the editor in today's Pittsburgh Post Gazette. the writer claimed in the letter he was "Not a christian" and asked if falwell had even read the bible. Pointing out verses that showed the violence in the bible.
He was commenting on Falwell's remark about mohammed being a terrorist.
Putting it shortly, is there anyone here named Charles D. Provan?

MacPrince · 10-19-2002, 11:43 AM

<a href="http://www.post-gazette.com/forum/letters/20021019lets1019p1.asp" target="_blank">Here's a link.</a> to the letters to the editor for today.

Very interesting...would the real Charles D. Provan please stand up?

Toto · 10-19-2002, 06:35 PM

Could it be this Charles D. Proven?

The location is right.

Quote:

The gears of Charles D. Provan have never quite meshed with the machinery of ordinary society. He counts himself as a revisionist, but a revisionist who believes the Holocaust did happen. His [ten, because he doesn't believe in birth control] kids are home schooled. He runs a small print shop with somebody else's name. Profoundly conservative, he also is a local Democratic committeeman and member of the printer's union.

Provan grew up nearer the political fringe than most. His parents, Charles and Marjorie Provan, were longtime leaders in the John Birch Society. They sent their son to Bob Jones University ...

At 17, the younger Provan gave a closer reading to "The Blue Book," the handbook of John Birch Society beliefs, and told his parents he was leaving the group.

"I sort of thought that he was going through a stage," remembered Marjorie Provan. . . .

What he became was an incessant questioner of authority. Provan left Bob Jones after a few years, studied history at the University of Pittsburgh, then quit before graduating and took a job at a Monongahela print shop. He also got heavily into Bible study, and became a regular contributor to The Christian News, a weekly publication run by Herman Otten, a renegade Lutheran minister in Missouri.

Otten's publication targets liberalism in the Lutheran Church, propounds conservative Christianity, but, weirdly, also argues editorially that the Holocaust didn't happen.

Provan moved from Holocaust denial to proving that the Holocaust happened. Could he possibly have made a similar leap in his religious views? Or is he a True Christian who knows and accepts how violent the Bible is?

And is this the same person here?

Put Charles D. Proven into Google for yourself. You'll find a lot of anti-birth control propaganda.

Toto · 10-19-2002, 06:38 PM

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Originally posted by Mecha_Dude:
<strong>... the writer claimed in the letter he was "Not a christian" and asked if falwell had even read the bible. Pointing out verses that showed the violence in the bible.
...</strong>

Actually the letter says "By the way, this writer is a Christian, but Christianity is not helped by making false statements about its opponents or advocates."

Mecha_Dude · 10-20-2002, 12:17 PM

Hmm..
Must've been a typo, it says "Not" in my paper WEIRD!!!!

Toto · 10-20-2002, 02:35 PM

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Originally posted by Mecha_Dude:
<strong>Hmm..
Must've been a typo, it says "Not" in my paper WEIRD!!!!</strong>

Are you sure? The mind has been known to play tricks and report what you expect to see rather than what is there on the page.

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Mecha_Dude Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Everywhere... I'm Watching you... Posts: 1,019	Who wrote it... Ok, there was a letter to the editor in today's Pittsburgh Post Gazette. the writer claimed in the letter he was "Not a christian" and asked if falwell had even read the bible. Pointing out verses that showed the violence in the bible. He was commenting on Falwell's remark about mohammed being a terrorist. Putting it shortly, is there anyone here named Charles D. Provan?

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10-19-2002, 11:43 AM	#2
MacPrince Regular Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: A suburb of Chicago you've probably never heard of Posts: 282	<a href="http://www.post-gazette.com/forum/letters/20021019lets1019p1.asp" target="_blank">Here's a link.</a> to the letters to the editor for today. Very interesting...would the real Charles D. Provan please stand up?

10-20-2002, 12:17 PM	#5
Mecha_Dude Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Everywhere... I'm Watching you... Posts: 1,019	Hmm.. Must've been a typo, it says "Not" in my paper WEIRD!!!!

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