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Old 03-01-2002, 01:53 PM   #11
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Having taken on land carnivores, I'll now take on land herbivores.

The biggest living ones are African elephants, with a body mass of 5 metric tons (max. ~6 mt). Asian elephants are similar in size, as were recently-extinct proboscideans like the woolly mammoth.

The biggest mammalian herbivore is the rhinoceros-like Indricotherium of the Oligocene (38-23 myr), at about 15-30 mt

However that is typical of sauropods, some of which may have had masses as much as 80 mt.

Which also makes present-day fauna seem rather wimpy.
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So what allowed T. rex to grow so big?</strong>
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<strong>Luckily, there have been lots of recent discoveries of bigger, meaner dinosaurs that make T-rex look like a pussy.</strong>
It could be <a href="http://www.childrensmuseum.org/kinetosaur/dinoapat.htm" target="_blank">worse</a>. Poor Brontosaurus has been usurped entirely.

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I was thinking more of what biophysical or ecological factors may have been involved -- how would a T. Rex be able to find enough meat in order to keep itself alive, and walk toward that meat without slowly dying of starvation (food energy &lt; walk energy).
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I was thinking more of what biophysical or ecological factors may have been involved -- how would a T. Rex be able to find enough meat in order to keep itself alive, and walk toward that meat without slowly dying of starvation (food energy &lt; walk energy).</strong>
Are you implying that he would have had to
be a herbivore to get that big? Maybe he went
both ways?

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I try to help out the Hovind camp whenever I can by pointing out that T rex needed those huge, slashing teeth to have any chance at all of subduing those fierce Cretaceous carrots. Not to mention Jurassic radishes.
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So what allowed T. rex to grow so big?
Just to throw an idea out, could cold-blooded/warm-bloodedness have anything to do with it?
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Old 03-02-2002, 12:35 AM   #18
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A creature with a 25,000 newton bite could crush your bones like a crust of french bread. The tyranosaurus rex certainly deserves it's name, shattered illusions about the animal notwithstanding.
 
 

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