Corey Hammer

Hehe...the Flynn Effect will most likely never slow...personally, I think it is a result of living in an increasingly complex world. People are required to become more and more savvy. Unfortunately, it's hard to test that hypothesis though it makes a certain amount of sense (just look at TV remote controls from 20 years ago and the ones you have now).

Corey Hammer

That's your definition. However, that is most certainly not the definition used by psychologists who research intelligence.

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Intelligence is determined by our existence which has a thinking part and an active planetary action based world. The effects of your intelligence can be examined on the planetary scene whereas the effects in your mind are of a different quality realising effects in the area of intelligent thought is only feedback concerning the success ratio of the intelligence itself.

This makes absolutely no sense. Where's your evidence for this?

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We can think intelligently but we can act less intelligently due to all the various factors which populate the planetary world. Perhaps this was what Flynn meant when he noted Americans score higher in I.Q tests but have not become smarter. The smartness he must obviously be referring to must be American action in the American Republic. I wonder how does he measure this smartness and why does it have to be production geared to society like a renaissance.

Huh? I'd like to point out at this time the concepts of fields. People who have high understanding in one field may act very skillfully and "intelligently" in it, but in another (even closely-related) field in which their skills are less developed, they may behave "unintelligently."

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On the philosophical front we realise the scope of intelligence varies from keeping care of your brain to interacting safely with humans in the planetary world. All the infinite spots for potential misinterpretation can be idealised in a manner in which the operational characteristics of intelligence is evident. Yes you may wonder about students, "why do they not see the operations which can be formed".

Huh? You're throwing out a bunch of meaningless jargon without explaining what it means. For example, "All the infinite spots for potential misinterpretation can be idealised in a manner in which the operational characteristics of intelligence is evident." That means absolutely nothing-it's just babble.

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Mental intelligence seems to be about a virtual world where the changes from AtoB or the movement from AtoB are characterised by intelligent thought. In the mind the darn thing works. Taking the step into a planetary world must also be characterised through intelligent performance. It is at this point we can once again draw the distinctions clearly within the intelligence compound between the pure genetic flavour and the homely herd smell. It is through performance in the planetary world intelligence gains existential value and it does seem as if the natural genetic intelligence of babies allows them to perform satisfactorily. Once again it is difficult to evade the idea of genetic intelligence. Once again I believe exploring the scope of genetic intelligence and trying to connect (the atheist's spiritual connection) to it and trying to make direct extensions of it, will help us to cope better with existence in our planetary world.

I'm not going to even bother with these. They make absolutely no sense.

sophie

corey,

try a thought experiment.

Intelligence involves knowing or estimating the goalstate and a means of resolving the goalstate, however, that is most certainly not the definition used by psychologists who research intelligence.

Plug any of the definitions used by your psychologists who research intelligence and estimate if any of those definitions involve the goalstate and a means of resolving the goalstate.

You may be surprised. Corey, when you have completed this task we can then attend to the rest of the babble.

sophie

corey to lighten up my statements a bit in relation to your response of it makes absolutely no sense. Where's your evidence for it?

STATEMENT
Intelligence is determined by our existence which has a thinking part and an active planetary action based world.
BASIS
We cannot act out of existence hence we are compelled to act in existence. Our head is in the world but it is not the world. We think in our head hence we do not thnk in the world. We act in the world, we do not act in our head, we think in our head.


STATEMENT
The effects of your intelligence can be examined on the planetary scene whereas the effects in your mind are of a different quality
BASIS
There are the effects of intelligence which are apparent because of its causing activity in the planetary world invariably this is the effect of an intelligent move. The intelligent move cannot originate from anywhere but in your head. The effect of an intelligent move which originated in your head and is/was visible in the planetary world has the possibility of being examined within the head as being successful or not. Thus there is a different quality in the effect of intelligence returning to its source in the head to be examined. This is an inportant point in the development of natural intelligence in the real world.

STATEMENT
realising effects in the area of intelligent thought is only feedback concerning the success ratio of the intelligence itself.
BASIS

Corey Hammer

*sigh*

That is one theory of the function of consciousness, not intelligence.

Since you're making the case that this is so, you get to be the one who does the digging for it. Not me. Have fun.

Corey Hammer

How do you know? It could be that this is all an illusion and that I am merely another part of you? How do you tell the difference?

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STATEMENT The effects of your intelligence can be examined on the planetary scene whereas the effects in your mind are of a different quality BASIS There are the effects of intelligence which are apparent because of its causing activity in the planetary world invariably this is the effect of an intelligent move. The intelligent move cannot originate from anywhere but in your head. The effect of an intelligent move which originated in your head and is/was visible in the planetary world has the possibility of being examined within the head as being successful or not. Thus there is a different quality in the effect of intelligence returning to its source in the head to be examined. This is an inportant point in the development of natural intelligence in the real world.

Seriously, what are you babbling about? Use common terms.

sophie

corey hammer, you said - Seriously, what are you babbling about? Use common terms.

as you had previously answered - How do you know? It could be that this is all an illusion and that I am merely another part of you? How do you tell the difference?
(referring your previous answer to 'common terms').


corey, I find you lacking sophistication and I have no interest in instructing you in the art of sophistication. Either you grow up fast or insert me on your ignore list. What may be meaningless to you may have another value to other humans.

sophie

corey hammer, you sighed, perhaps a bit prematurely.

That is one theory of the function of consciousness, not intelligence. (Gee you are losing me here, does intelligence gain power by itself or is it only demonstratable through consciousness)

Since you're making the case that this is so, you get to be the one who does the digging for it. Not me. Have fun. (You lose me here again, you cannot argue, try to see my point, say whatever you wish to say without finding common ground. By your statement you have indicated your unwillingness to move to common ground, on your behalf. In this light it becomes futile to try to communicate with you, in other words, I think you are arguing in bad faith)

sophie

corey, concerning your common terms,

One STATEMENT has 17 words of which 3 were repeated twice and the most difficult words were, intelligence, quality, mind and effects. Check it yourself.
The – 2
Effects
Of - 2
Your - 2
Intelligence
Can
Be
Examined
On
Planetary
Scene
In
Mind
Are
A
Different
Quality.

One BASIS has 107 words of which 57 were unique. The most difficult word was once again intelligence, the rest were common words.
a
of - 7
to – 2
in – 8
is – 3
be – 1
an – 3
as
or
not
are - 2
the – 12
its - 3
but
and
was
has
has
your - 2
head – 4
this – 2
from
move. - 3
real
Thus
effect
which
effect
There – 2
which
apparent
because
causing
activity

planetary - 2
world - 3
invariably

effect - 2
intelligent – 3
intelligence - 3

cannot
originate
originated
anywhere
possibility
being - 2
examined
within

successful
different
quality
returning
source
examined.
inportant
point
development
natural


corey hammer, what on earth are you trying to achieve with your choice of words??

sophie

Taken froom the Max Planck institute's web site :

Today cognitive neurosciences focus on natural intelligence in particular. What is behind the cognitive performance of humans and animals? How can these processing operations, in turn, be explained by physiological processes in the brain? Accordingly, psychologists today are concerned with the functional analysis of cognitive performance, and neurobiologists with the analysis of mental processes in which the algorithms are implemented that form the basis of cognitive performance. Sensor technology and motor functions (perception and movement), information selection (attention) and sensory-motor integration (planning and control of actions) are at the center of attention. Here, neural processing operations are regarded as extremely interactive, parallel in functional terms and simultaneous in terms of time.

available at :
http://www.mpg.de/english/researchFi...itionResearch/