yguy

Not in the least.

You guys are evidently having a problem separating the question of whether homosexuals have latent pedophilic tendencies from the reality that at least some homosexual activists have a disturbing inability to distance themselves from advocates of pedophilia. You think I'm trying to use the latter to demonstrate the former. On the contrary, if you guys would stop being so defensive and realize that it's not the yguys of the world but the Harry Hay's of the world who are your real enemy, you'd take the wind out of my sails.

yguy

Indeed, the proclivity to see something where nothing actually exists, which you think I'm doing, and the proclivity to see nothing where something exists, which I think you're doing, are as like as two peas.

Amen-Moses

Why is Harry Hay (or rather was when he lived) my enemy?

Are you actually going to provive some evidence that he promoted or encouraged pedophilic activities?

Amen-Moses

yguy

Know what I do when I realize that my opponent is in denial about some flaw in his reasoning? I disengage.

How hard is that, Mr K?

yguy

If people like that aren't your enemy, you are my enemy.

I already did, in my first post on page 14.

JamesKrieger

At least some animal rights activists have a disturbing inability to distance themselves from advocates of pedophilia.

At least some women's rights activists have a disturbing inability to distance themselves from advocates of pedophilia.

At least some civil rights activists have a disturbing inability to distance themselves from advocates of pedophilia.

You still don't get it, do you, yguy? You still don't seem to see how absurd your "reasoning" is.

Do you even know what the fallacy of presupposition means?

Do you even know what a non-sequitur is?

It doesn't look like it.

JamesKrieger

Translation: When yguy is pointed out a problem with his reasoning, he "disengages" rather than actually addressing the problem. In otherwords, yguy has just admitted that he uses evasive tactics.

yguy, you are the one presenting an "argument" here. Everyone else is pointing out the problems with it, and then you evade them. There have been some legitimate questions asked of you in this thread...questions that you have completely ignored. I'm still waiting for you to present your position in a syllogism format.

Amen-Moses

Originally posted by yguy
If people like that aren't your enemy, you are my enemy.

Why?

I already did, in my first post on page 14.

Nope, all you did was post a link to a site, on this site it says:

"NAMBLA does not engage in any activities that violate the law, nor do we advocate that anyone else should do so."

There is nothing on that site that mentions Hay and you have yet to make any link with pedophilia.

(remember pedophilia is a mental illness in which people are sexually attracted to pre-pubescents, post-pubescent sex but still classified as a minor = statutory rape, if you wish to try and make a link between homosexuality and statutory rape using Hay or NAMBLA then you might find it easier although one might just have to point out that 99% of all statutory rape cases are heterosexual)

Amen-Moses

yguy

Indeed, many of us on the right are at least dimly aware of the tendency of so many on the left to cater to the rottenness in people. The higher up on the political food chain you go, the less apparent the connection to any particular manifestation of said rottenness such as pedophilia, but it is there nonetheless.

yguy

I've no doubt this is reassuring to parents everywhere. And obviously I'm reading too much into the fact that they want to repeal AOC laws, not just lower them to 12 as "Justice" Ginsberg once proposed.

Didn't look very hard, did you?

From then on, I considered him a friend. I was lucky to have spent more time with him than I could have hoped for, yet far less than I would have liked-at Phil Willkie�s Wisconsin cabin and his St. Paul apartment; at the Stonewall 25 demonstration in New York in 1994, where Harry and John, as well as the late Jim Kepner (another early member of the Mattachine Society and a gay archivist) marched with the Spirit of Stonewall contingent that included NAMBLA; and at the International Lesbian and Gay Association (ILGA) conference in New York that same week, which expelled NAMBLA (despite Harry�s vocal protests and subsequent disgust)<snip>

Peddle this Clintonian parsing of depravity somewhere else, if you would be so kind.