Queen of Swords

Originally posted by Magus55
Well let me ask you all this. If the Bible is a legend, completely fictional - why is it the most influencial book in history,

If Gone with the Wind is a legend, completely fictional, why is it such an influential book? Why did it become the most popular film in history (until maybe Titanic)?

Queen of Swords

Originally posted by Magus55
There have been accounts of nurses and doctors seeing angels visit ill patients, or little kids who were severly beaten and abused carried miles to safety by angels.

What a shame the angels couldn't stop the kids from being "severly beaten and abused". Were they too late or something? By the way, could you provide any evidence for these "accounts" - like, for example, a photograph snapped by a nurse or doctor who saw the angel coming in with a bunch of flowers during visiting hours? It sounds like something out of Touched by an Angel.

Jack the Bodiless

Not only is that article nonsense, as already pointed out, but it's rather hard to see what the author could have meant.

5,686 Greek copies? I'm sure there are far more copies of EACH of those books in Greek today. Of course, if you go back in time, the number of copies declines, eventually reaching zero. This applies to the Bible as it does to any other book. Sure, there was presumably a time when there were 5,686 Greek copies of the Bible, but WHEN? Certainly not within 100 years of Jesus, as the table implies!

As Vorkosigan pointed out, there are ancient writings where we have the originals, therefore "this is simply unheard of in any other ancient writing" is a blatant lie.

As for the other claims: we have far more than 5,686 copies of Tolkien's Lord of the Rings, all of which DO date from within 100 years of its authorship, and they are MUCH more than 99.5% consistent (unlike the Bible).

...So elves exist?

Infidelettante

I know Kass, but if they're going to get you they're going to get you. There is not much we can do about it but I'll be more careful in the future.

JT

diana

Argument by hyperlink. I'll let you in on something, since I told you once and you've forgotten so soon: sending someone a link you didn't write to answer their question is your way of admitting you don't know.

I'll add that you clearly have no concept of what qualifies as evidence that a thing is authentic or true. Do you know what primary sources are? Ever heard of artifacts?

In addition, you have shown not even a rudimentary ability to reason, and are apparently ignorant of the concept of thoroughness.

You picked one question out of a post I spent some time composing in an effort to address all of your questions and comments. You have completely ignored the fact that the question you chose to answer is irrelevant to what you claimed, anyway, which was one of my points in that post.

I'll let you in on another secret here. We have plenty of Xns on this board. I think they aren't helping you because you're embarrassing them. They're too busy cringing and dissociating themselves from you.

I can't blame them. Were an atheist to come here and display the level of outright ignorance, rudeness, arrogance and bullheadedness you're showing with every post, we'd hound him out of town.

d

Godless Dave

Not having even a tiny tiny tiny shred of evidence that he exists is the same reason I don't believe in your God. I just believe in one less god than you do. If you applied the same criteria to your god that you apply to others you would be an atheist too. If you subjected the Bible to the same standards of evidence I assume you use for the Koran, the Bhagavad Ghita, the Book of Mormon, and all other religious texts you wouldn't believe it was the absolute truth.

There is an equal amount of evidence for the gods Kass believes in as for the one you believe in.

Disagreeing with you and pointing out your errors is not rude nor is it an insult.

Porky Houton

Godless Dave wrote:
"If you applied the same criteria to your god that you apply to others you would be an atheist too. If you subjected the Bible to the same standards of evidence I assume you use for the Koran, the Bhagavad Ghita, the Book of Mormon, and all other religious texts you wouldn't believe it was the absolute truth."

When I left Mormonism five years ago, I applied the same measuring stick to Christianity. I found that Christianity was Mormonism a 2000 year head start.

Magus, why don't you believe that the Book of Mormon is the word of god?

Answerer

Guys, see who is rude in the first place? By the way Magus, your arrogance will not help you in any way. For the sake of humanity and justice, I really prefer extremists like you, which probably makes up only 20% percentage of the total world population, will go to hell rather than the other 80% of the human race.

No one deserve hell except those who want to see others in it.

Mick911

First of all, they'll never make a saint of me LOL
Second, if atheists were as well-thought-out as they claim, they wouldn't be athiests. In my opinion, this is a classic "can't see the forest through the trees" scenario, with the "trees" representing the worldly "plane". (I wonder how many athiests are virgos lol) it goes against every intellectual argument to take a look at the world that you see and take such a profound stance. I can't see the wind, but it still blows dirt in my face....
What about astral travel and theories? Much of reality is far beyond our comprehension, i agree.
The universe is not chaos, it is order- the astronomical timeframe is just too large to fully comprehend.
What about the government's time travel and mind-control experiments? if this is true, than everything we think of as reality is fantasy anyway.
I don't care how Goth you are, NOBODY knows what it is like after you die.
Personally, I know beyond the shadow of doubt that "God" exists, although no earthly religion has got it right. If they did, then we would all believe in one without question like the extraterrestrial residents of the (uni)verse. Too many times in my life things have happened that can only be due to the omnipotent machinations of some higher power. I think it is just stubborn to refuse to take a good, long, hard look at yourself. Every athiest I have ever met has some kind of emotional baggage.
This is just my opinion, of course.

Magus55

On the contrary, i don't want anyone to be in Hell. And usually im a very nice person. But atheists attitude and sarcastic remarks about "there is no God", " you all are delusional", etc. makes it very hard to want to continue to show you the truth.

None the less most people here probably hate me ( not that i mind - Jesus is the only one i need) - so its all moot anyway.