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Old 05-07-2003, 02:43 AM   #41
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Old 05-07-2003, 11:24 AM   #42
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I would second some of the previously mentioned persons:

Buddha
Boenhoffer and Niemoller
Albert Schweizter

I'd add Joseph Priestley. Best known as an amateur chemist for discovering oxygen and carbon dioxide he was a leading religious freethinker and pastor of a liberal, heterodox church. Any cleric who could write a book entitled "A History of the Corruptions of the Christian Church" deserves a hearing. He was an influence on Thomas Jefferson's religious skepticism, and, in a famous letter to TJ he referred to the doctrine of the trinity as "metaphysical insanity."

And re. Origen. Isn't this the dude that castrated himself? That would certainly make me a bit skeptical.
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Who do you think influenced Hitler and Stalin to murder millions of people? Satan hates you, and wants you to burn in Hell. Kinda odd that you would actually respect a being like that. You think Satan is on your side? His sole purpose is to make you reject God ( which he has been quite successful in) and suffer.
Hitler the Catholic and Stalin the atheist? How exactly would Satan influence them? One thought he was the bad guy, and the other didn't believe he existed.
Besides, I'm guessing that bocajeff was referring to the Satan of the bible, not an actual being. Since he only exists as a literary character, he can't really try and influence actual people.

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Zarathustra: interesting ideas, intersting [sic] name
But not exactly a religious figure. For one thing, this is another literary character. For another, it's the one who coined the term "God is dead".
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Zoroaster was a real person, the founder of Zoroastrianism which was the original religion of Iraq. Now they are called Parsis. Zoroaster called God "Ahura Mazda".

The word "Zarathustra" is used by Nietsche and RIchard Strauss as part of their superman philosophy, in German.

Read about their history, they are a real religion and probably the oldest one that is still around. Zoroaster rebelled against Mithra.
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