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Ennazus · 07-08-2003, 06:22 AM

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so we all have some kind of lord and gods, they ,may have different names and symbols , but the concept is one and same one

I do not maintain any belief in lords, gods or god concepts. I also do not worship money, power or sex.

Rima · 07-08-2003, 06:33 AM

thank you guys for your great replies , if you don`t have God , it is OK , I really don`t have problem to accept the fact that in this world there are too many atheists
but you should also know how to live with the fact that in this world there are too many believers

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Originally posted by Roland98
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I was saddened to hear this news this morning--but I agree. God should be held to the same standard as anyone else--if you thank him for the good, he should be blamed for the bad.

what is the bad and what is the good in your opinion?
what Good we should thank God for , and what Bad we should blame HIM for ?
death?? is death the bad part of your (very short )life?

what do you do if you have a date with a woman (man) you love the most ?

My Lord they don`t know you , please forgive them

Rima · 07-08-2003, 06:43 AM

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Originally posted by Suzanne**Atheist
I also do not worship money, power or sex.

but :
1.you won`t be so sad if you win $1000.000 lottery

2.you won`t say no if a sexy , beautiful man (woman) call you for a date

3.and if they elect you to be the PRESIDENT , Im sure you won`t say NO

Roland98 · 07-08-2003, 06:49 AM

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Originally posted by Rima
[B]thank you guys for your great replies , if you don`t have God , it is OK , I really don`t have problem to accept the fact that in this world there are too many atheists
but you should also know how to live with the fact that in this world there are too many believers

Yes--and this is generally my sanctuary from believers.

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what is the bad and what is the good in your opinion?
what Good we should thank God for , and what Bad we should blame HIM for ?
death?? is death the bad part of your (very short )life?

Oh please. Don't tell me that the deaths of 2 29-yr-old women, who never were able to live a day on their own, is in some way a good thing. Don't tell me that the deaths of a family of children in a house fire is a good thing. Don't even try to tell me that rape, abuse, murder, or any of the other things that your god allows are, in some way, good.

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what do you do if you have a date with a woman (man) you love the most ?

What the hell does that have to do with anything?

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My Lord they don`t know you , please forgive their ignorance

Invisible pink unicorn, she doesn't know you. Please forgive her incredible arrogance.

Roland98 · 07-08-2003, 06:51 AM

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Originally posted by Rima
but :
1.you won`t be so sad if you win $1000.000 lottery

Actually, with all the taxes I'd have to pay on it and the headaches that come with money, I just might be. Haven't you ever heard of King Midas? Money isn't everything.

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2.you won`t say no if a sexy , beautiful man (woman) call you for a date

Since I'm married, I guess I would.

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3.and if they elect you to be the PRESIDENT , Im sure you won`t say NO

I don't know why the hell anyone would ever want to be president--so I would turn it down, sorry.

You repenting to the IPU yet?

Rima · 07-08-2003, 07:39 AM

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Originally posted by Roland98
Yes--and this is generally my sanctuary from believers.

Here I just wanted to say that I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST OTHERS who don`t believe in God , I respect your choice of living , I don`t force my opinion on others ,but when I am asked , I express my feelings and my beliefs

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Originally posted by Roland98

Oh please. Don't tell me that the deaths of 2 29-yr-old women, who never were able to live a day on their own, is in some way a good thing. . [/B]

I am not trying to tell you anything , I am just trying to explain my opinion , the way I feel it and the way I belive

for somebody who feels that life has beginning and END , YES death is very bad thing

for me life is a temporary period ,in which I serve the purpose of my existence , to serve my beloved God
for me death is just one step further , toward meeting my beloved

how do you feel if you know that tomorrow will meet someone who you love the most, and you have been longing for this meeting for years

it is sad for these two young girls to die , but who knows, they are maybe now in his heaven , rewarded in his gardens , they may feel sorry and pity for us here on earth , because we don`t know what is it like to be there in his eternal life

my Lord let me live one more day
to woorship you in it'
the way you desreve
my beloved God

ComestibleVenom · 07-08-2003, 08:06 AM

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Originally posted by Rima
I really don`t have problem to accept the fact that in this world there are too many atheists
but you should also know how to live with the fact that in this world there are too many believers ....
My Lord they don`t know you , please forgive their ignorance

You have not justified your claim, Rima, that it is we who live in ignorance. In fact, a perusal of some of the poster's highly extensive knowledge of christianity suggests to me that many of us outweigh you in knowledge of christianity.

We reject it with open eyes because it is a delusion, not because we don't know what it has to offer.

Roland98 · 07-08-2003, 08:11 AM

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for somebody who feels that life has beginning and END , YES death is very bad thing

And rape, and abuse, etc.--which I noticed you didn't address. But of course, a loving God will allow children to fry in a trailer fire, torturing them before they (maybe--but only if they were Saved, otherwise they're frying in a very different fire) came to him in Heaven. He'll also allow His followers to be raped, abused, violated in many ways--because it might just make them stronger. Riiiiiiiight.

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I don`t force my opinion on others

Ah no, but you call on your Lord to forgive us for our ignorance.

Because, clearly, only your opinion is the one that's "informed."

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how do you feel if you know that tomorrow will meet someone who you love the most, and you have been longing for this meeting for years

Another bizarre Christian tenet. So why not kill yourself today and go meet Him? Why even bother with earth?

Rima · 07-08-2003, 08:13 AM

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Originally posted by ComestibleVenom
You have not justified your claim, Rima, that it is we who live in ignorance.

I am very sorry , if you misunderstood me , when I said : Lord forgive their ignorance

I did not mean that you are ignorant , but I ment you don`t know him
excuse my language , and my arrogance please
I really did not mean to offend you (I am going to edite this statement)

please forgive me

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Originally posted by ComestibleVenom In fact, a perusal of some of the poster's highly extensive knowledge of christianity suggests to me that many of us outweigh you in knowledge of christianity. [/B]

I am not a christian , (I am an EX Christian)

blessings

Rima · 07-08-2003, 08:18 AM

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Originally posted by Roland98
Another bizarre Christian tenet. So why not kill yourself today and go meet Him? Why even bother with earth?

my friend:
nobody can take something doesn`t belong to him?
how can I take my life (kill myself) if my life does not belong to me

My life belong to my God , he is the only one who have the authority to take my life ?

but I won`t be so sad when He does take it, I will be so happy because I will meet him , I will be in companion of my beloved for ever...

my LORD let your name
be in my eart forever
let my heart know nothing
but your name , your love
My dearest lover

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