Starboy

Maybe Jesus didn't look anything like his brothers and sisters?

Starboy

Naruto

It was Jesus Fucking Christ. Duh.

MonCapitan2002

The possibility is so ridiculous that it isn't deserving of consideration. There are far more plausible explanations for her pregnancy than the Immaculate Conception. This is all assuming that Mary even existed.

Heathen Dawn

Either 1) some unknown man, or 2) Jehovah.

lpetrich

I was simply describing what many of the participants in this site tend to believe.

Look at it this way. Consider the stories of the divine paternity of Pythagoras, Plato, and Alexander the Great. If one considers them to be pure fiction, then why not take the story of the divine parentage of Jesus Christ and also consider it pure fiction?

Put another way, how are Mary and the dove (Holy Ghost) any fundamentally different from Leda and the swan (Zeus)?

Pythagoras: mathematician, philospher, and founder of a religious cult; he believed in reincarnation and the wickedness of eating beans
Divine Father: Apollo
Human Father: Mnesarchus
Mother: Parthenis/Pythais
Story: Iamblichus, Life of Pythagoras; Iamblichus himself did not believe it. Reprinted here.

Plato (Aristocles): philosopher, follower of Pythagoras
Divine Father: Apollo
Human Father: Ariston
Mother: Perictione
Story: Diogenes Laertius, Lives of the Eminent Philosophers (part 3.2).

Alexander the Great: leader, conqueror
Divine Father: Zeus
Human Father: Philip of Macedon
Mother: Olympias
Story: Plutarch, Parallel Lives, Alexander 2.1-3.2

Al Kafirun

Eh, I just pulled that number out my ass. LOL But I can't imagine the ancients waiting much longer than that. Gotta make babies, low mortality rate.

Al Kafirun

Problem solved. LOL

In the year 3671 in the days of King Jannaeus, a great misfortune befell Israel, when there arose a certain disreputable man of the tribe of Judah, whose name was Joseph Pandera. He lived at Bethlehem, in Judah.

Near his house dwelt a widow and her lovely and chaste daughter named Miriam. Miriam was betrothed to Yohanan, of the royal house of David, a man learned in the Torah and God-fearing.

At the close of a certain Sabbath, Joseph Pandera, attractive and like a warrior in appearance, having gazed lustfully upon Miriam, knocked upon the door of her room and betrayed her by pretending that he was her betrothed husband, Yohanan. Even so, she was amazed at this improper conduct and submitted only against her will.

Thereafter, when Yohanan came to her, Miriam expressed astonishment at behavior so foreign to his character. It was thus that they both came to know the crime of Joseph Pandera and the terrible mistake on the part of Miriam. Whereupon Yohanan went to Rabban Shimeon ben Shetah and related to him the tragic seduction. Lacking witnesses required for the punishment of Joseph Pandera, and Miriam being with child, Yohanan left for Babylonia.[

Miriam gave birth to a son and named him Yehshuas, after her brother. This name later deteriorated to Yeshus. On the eighth day he was circumcised. When he was old enough the lad was taken by Miriam to the house of study to be instructed in the Jewish tradition.

walt6

"Faith is believing something that nobody in their right mind would"
Archie Bunker

Personaly, I like to think that it was a sandwich job with the father and holy ghost being the bread slices. I shall spare you the details.

The Evil One

Last time I checked, Christians were in a minority. Unless the word "minority" has changed its meaning recently so that 2 billion out of 6 billion doesn't constitute a minority.

I'm sorry Magus55, but a 2/3 majority thinks your religion is BS.

A good job for both of us, then, that argumentum ad numeram is a fallacy.

Starboy

Dang philosophy. I suppose for philosophy it is a fallacy, others just consider it a bad argument. It contributes nothing to supporting the assertion of the argument.

Starboy