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Gallimore · 11-25-2002, 03:46 PM

Deafness as a disablility is one thing. Deafness as a culture is another.

winstonjen · 11-25-2002, 03:48 PM

If deafness is a culture, shouldn't people have the right to leave that culture? If a culture or tradition isn't popular enough to have followers, the culture or tradition will disappear from society. Simple as that.

Gallimore · 11-25-2002, 03:49 PM

DoubtingDidymus, because 90% of deaf children come from hearing parents.

LordSnooty · 11-25-2002, 05:32 PM

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Originally posted by Gallimore:
Lordsnooty, for an English snooty, you�re disgustingly ignorant. Try to gain some smidgen of awareness, (if there�s any room in your ignorance-infested brain), before you can so aptly assert this tragic claim. Since when is culture a lifestyle choice? So black is a color, not a lifestyle choice? If science has enabled African Americans to become white (no doubt a salvific solution to racial atrocities, both socially and politically, against the race), should we gladly expunge their culture? Are English people like you? God, have a pity on English deaf people.

(...)

Your ethnocentric attitude is what massacred Indians, lynched niggers, endangered animals. People like you should be flushed down the toilet.

Finally! My prayers have been answered. I've found someone even more rude, vulgar and reactionary than myself.

Paul

[edited to cut out unnecessary quotage]

[ November 25, 2002: Message edited by: LordSnooty ]

ageofreason2000 · 11-25-2002, 07:20 PM

Gillamore, your not a troll your just being foolish.

Are you really deaf?

Well I'll assume you are, as others have said already you can remain deaf, nobody wants to rob you of your "culture".

But most deaf poeple would kind off like to hear again if given the choice.

Most parents would prefer a hearing child than a deaf child if given the choice.

......

Nope you have to be a Troll.

nobody can be that ridiculous

Age

ageofreason2000 · 11-25-2002, 07:22 PM

And further Gallimore has hijacked the thread.

Nope IMHO he is not even deaf (read his profile)

Age

Splat · 11-26-2002, 06:04 AM

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Originally posted by ageofreason2000:
And further Gallimore has hijacked the thread.

Nope IMHO he is not even deaf (read his profile)

Age

True, the thread has wandered. The topic deserves its own thread.

But what in Gallimore's profile gives you any indication whatsoever about his/her hearing ability?

For somebody adopting "Age of Reason" for a handle, your logic is strikingly like that of theists who assert, based solely on their opinion, that atheists can't have morals, can't be happy, and really can't even not believe in god.

The Other Michael · 11-26-2002, 06:11 AM

Let's please return to the original topic of embryonic stem cell research.

Gallimore (or others), feel free to open a new thread specifically relating to the morality of research on medical topics that might have a positive/adverse impact on cultures that may exist within people who have various medical conditions.

thank you,
Michael
MF&P Moderator, First Class

ageofreason2000 · 11-26-2002, 06:25 AM

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Originally posted by Splat:


True, the thread has wandered. The topic deserves its own thread.

But what in Gallimore's profile gives you any indication whatsoever about his/her hearing ability?

For somebody adopting "Age of Reason" for a handle, your logic is strikingly like that of theists who assert, based solely on their opinion, that atheists can't have morals, can't be happy, and really can't even not believe in god.

It was his occupation of "Dissemination Specialist" maybe it's a USA one but to me that read as a comedian bullshiter.

To be fair though I was running on "Stella Reason" ie: one too many cans of Stella Artios not conducive to reasoned debate, he saw my cage and rattled it.

Maybe I should change my name to "Pissed again"

Back to the topic....

Age

brighid · 11-26-2002, 06:49 AM

Some more links on this subject:

<a href="http://www.clearlyexplained.com/nature/life/cells/stemcells.html" target="_blank">http://www.clearlyexplained.com/nature/life/cells/stemcells.html</a> - simplified explanation of stem cell types

<a href="http://dmoz.org/Science/Biology/Biotechnology/Stem_Cells/" target="_blank">http://dmoz.org/Science/Biology/Biotechnology/Stem_Cells/</a> - a more comprehensive list of various links on the subject.

Brighid

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11-25-2002, 03:46 PM	#41
Gallimore Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Pasadena, CA Posts: 36	Deafness as a disablility is one thing. Deafness as a culture is another.

11-25-2002, 03:48 PM	#42
winstonjen Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 3,425	If deafness is a culture, shouldn't people have the right to leave that culture? If a culture or tradition isn't popular enough to have followers, the culture or tradition will disappear from society. Simple as that.

11-25-2002, 03:49 PM	#43
Gallimore Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Pasadena, CA Posts: 36	DoubtingDidymus, because 90% of deaf children come from hearing parents.

11-25-2002, 07:20 PM	#45
ageofreason2000 Regular Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: UK (London) Posts: 103	Gillamore, your not a troll your just being foolish. Are you really deaf? Well I'll assume you are, as others have said already you can remain deaf, nobody wants to rob you of your "culture". But most deaf poeple would kind off like to hear again if given the choice. Most parents would prefer a hearing child than a deaf child if given the choice. ...... Nope you have to be a Troll. nobody can be that ridiculous Age

11-25-2002, 07:22 PM	#46
ageofreason2000 Regular Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: UK (London) Posts: 103	And further Gallimore has hijacked the thread. Nope IMHO he is not even deaf (read his profile) Age

11-26-2002, 06:11 AM	#48
The Other Michael Honorary Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: In the fog of San Francisco Posts: 12,631	Let's please return to the original topic of embryonic stem cell research. Gallimore (or others), feel free to open a new thread specifically relating to the morality of research on medical topics that might have a positive/adverse impact on cultures that may exist within people who have various medical conditions. thank you, Michael MF&P Moderator, First Class

11-26-2002, 06:49 AM	#50
brighid Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: somewhere in the known Universe Posts: 6,993	Some more links on this subject: <a href="http://www.clearlyexplained.com/nature/life/cells/stemcells.html" target="_blank">http://www.clearlyexplained.com/nature/life/cells/stemcells.html</a> - simplified explanation of stem cell types <a href="http://dmoz.org/Science/Biology/Biotechnology/Stem_Cells/" target="_blank">http://dmoz.org/Science/Biology/Biotechnology/Stem_Cells/</a> - a more comprehensive list of various links on the subject. Brighid

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