Rhea

Oh please don't outlaw car fishes! With the disappearance of the Fedora, the fish is a handy way to know whether you should pass the driver in front of you at the soonest opportunity or just ride it out. <>< means "bad driver" in Christian. (The secular symbol is "volvo")

Walross

Originally posted by Fenton Mulley:

Then I probably have you to thank for it. I knew I had gotten it from someone on IIDB, but couldn't remember who. It's a handy answer for the christians who somehow think of the fish symbol as "theirs"...and in an easy to read Chick tract-like form!

Walross

Ab_Normal

I've got a Volvo with a Volkswagen fish (the VW symbol in a fish shape). Am I extra scary? Or do they counteract each other?

Walross

Originally posted by fatherphil:

well, you were the one who complained:

I imagine 1rst/2nd century pagans probably found the christian use of thier fish (not to mention their other symbols, their holidays, their rituals, etc) to be equally odious. Tit for tat.

Walross

Rhea

Good question! (Do you wear a fedora?)
(Actually, I have a fedora. I love it.)

The Naked Mage

Mmmmm...women in fedoras...[/HOMER]

Sabine Grant

arrgh... just got back home in Riverview ( by Bloomingdale and Providence) and it feels as if it were about upper nineties. Plant City was a furnace ( most of my patients are located there).
Great topic by the way...I enjoyed reading thru all the posts.

Ab_Normal

My husband has a spiffy black fedora, but it's too big for my teeny little cabeza.

Okay, I'll quit dragging this one off topic.

Janaya

1. For older people I would think that the Cold War, Communism, and McCarthyism would have a lot to do with it. After all, they would consider you not only immoral, etc. but kind of a traitor as well.

2. In certain segments of society (maybe most), men are considered to be the leaders and are expected to be a bit rebellious and strong willed. Most things that they do are accepted and if not are merely frowned upon and rarely condemned. Women, however, are expected to be meek and obedient, but most importantly their actions are considered reflections of their family. Your husband and/or father would be partially blamed for not raising/training you correctly or some such rubbish. So I guess what I'm taking a long time to say is that for some people image and familial legitimacy are extremely important.

3. I think a lot of it is either/or a combination of ignorance and insecurity. I think most Christians don't really know what an atheist is and only have misinformation about us. Many are not even sure what agnosticism is. However, I believe that most Christians are good intelligent people at heart, and once they realize that their view is incorrect quickly come around.

4. And then there are those that believe you cannot be moral without some sort of religious foundation. They will probably always be suspicious and fearful.

5. And last but not least there are those that think you really do know God but have chosen to reject him. You are spitting in the face of their beloved diety. And after all he's done for you. You horrid little atheist you.

Just my two cents. Course I have always lived in the South among mostly fundies so I'm sure my opinions of Christians are skewed quite a bit. (hope I didn't come off as pompous or anything.....feel free to slap me around)

beth

Let's meet at Barnes and Noble or Panera sometime for coffee? You live quite close to me. Be warned though, if you are bad driver, and a red explorer flicked you off, it was probably me. ...and yes, PC was a furnace. My AC is still going full blast.