Duvenoy

Make no mistake, this case will not change a single mind among the believers They could convict him and lock him away as they did Jim Baker and he would merely become another symbol of the persecution of Christians (why do they whine so much? It seems the other way 'round, from here).

In any event, as stated, other YEC floggers would profit from his absence.

There are also his sons, who, from my reading, mirror the father. I'm sure they would try to keep the scam going. And would probably succeed.

However, what we might well end up with will be another tempest in a teapot. Baker was caught with his hand in the cookie jar clear up to his neck. Big-dollar rip-offs will always get more attention than something like what Hovind's done (no, real injury, if I remember the article right). I would not be suprised to see him walk, unless he makes such a complete ass of himself in court (assuming that it goes to court), that the jury decides he needs a good bitch-slapping.

I too, would love to be a fly on that courtroom wall.

doov

Camaban

gotta say.

You can definitely see why he avoids anything written or online.

Comes across as a fool.

Blinn

I just took another look at the <a href="http://205.152.130.8/cv_web_1b.asp?ucase_id=12619523" target="_blank">dockets</a>, and it appears the judge that the case was assigned to for trial, has recused herself. Couldn't find much about her with a google search, although she was appointed by Jebby Bush and went to a Christian college as an undergrad.

Atheist121

Yes, I agree with this completely. If you watch his tapes, it's obvious he uses a method of argument that involves throwing out one point after the another quickly, so no one can really digest or think about any one individual thing that he is. This makes it easy to convince anyone except those who have good debating skills, have a good BS detector, or have good working knowledge of the subject (or any combination of the above). I imagine most of the people here possess all three.

Paper eliminates the ability for one to use this technique. You can think about/examine/refute every point seperately, and it makes his entire set of material junk.

tgamble

His materials are junk on or off paper. Being on paper just makes it easier to find out that it's junk.

Camaban

Well Said.

RufusAtticus

Well, I know of at least on church that stopped using Hovind material not because they realized how inaccurate it was, but because they were shown that Hovind wasn't a good Christian.

If we're talking about sunday school materials, the character of the person behind them does play an important role in their use.

Blinn

Check out what missus gumby posted in the <a href="http://iidb.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=54&t=000028&p=50" target="_blank">photoshop thread</a>!

ps418

Valentine Pontifex

True. What Hovind may or may not have done does not make evolution true or false or YECism true or false. It does however have a huge bearing on whether or not Hovind's word can be trusted or not. And it is a good antedote to Hovinds frequent claims that "evolutionists" are immoral.

Though there is something else that should be mentioned: as of yet, Hovind does NOT have a criminal record. He has no felony convictions as hard as it is to believe. His record is still relatively clean. Of course in a few months that might change if he gets some convictions. However, lets not count his convictions before they hatch.