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Old 07-30-2003, 01:52 PM   #31
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What a great gun control thread this is.
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What if I started building protection robots tomorrow that were capable of killing people? In fact, that would be their goal if need be. That's the same goal of a guard dog, right? How would you feel about me building these Killer Protector Robots(tm)?
Fine with me, as long as you are responsible. Exactly the same way I feel about gun ownership, and dog ownership.
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Fine with me, as long as you are responsible. Exactly the same way I feel about gun ownership, and dog ownership.
Ahhh, but what if I said these robots weren't completely programable? They've been known to disobey their programming sometimes, and, as a matter of fact, a few of the earlier models accidently killed some people.

Oh, and if children poke the robots out of curiousity, the robot might just attack the child.
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I would really like you to read my earlier post, and vindicate comparing a dog to a robot.
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Shome, I think you're reaching big time...dogs are living beings not computers. The analogy should be with children not objects as has been pointed out.

If children poke and prod other children, the other children may attack.
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What a great gun control thread this is.
Gazaderine swine. Despite your excellent taste in fiction I will never agree with you on that issue
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Gazaderine swine. Despite your excellent taste in fiction I will never agree with you on that issue
Hee hee!
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Shome, I think you're reaching big time...dogs are living beings not computers. The analogy should be with children not objects as has been pointed out.

If children poke and prod other children, the other children may attack.
Both children and robots are flawed analogies to dogs. I realize that.

The reason that I used robots is because they are more reliable than dogs, yet people would still not feel comfortable giving them the ability to kill. Why then, are they comfortable having killer dogs around, which are far less reliable????

Children, unlike dogs, can be reasoned with. They have rational minds. And if a child is so young that it can't be reasoned with, then it's too young to be a danger anyway. And even if it cannot be reasoned with and hurts people, then there's nothing we can do because children, being humans, have the right to be free until they screw up. Anything less than human does not have that right and can be preemtively taken out of society because its too dangerous.

Now, if you want to elevate the rights of dogs to those of humans, that's a whole 'nother debate.
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Do you have some statistics you are working from? There are 10's of millions of dogs in the US most of whom live out their 10 or 15 years without ever biting. Where are you getting the idea they they are completely unpredictable and attacks are imminent at any given moment? Why do you think leash laws and confinement laws aren't adequate...basically on what are you basing your assertion that dogs are a big dangerous and uncontrolled problem?
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basically on what are you basing your assertion that dogs are a big dangerous and uncontrolled problem?
Well, to be completely honest, I'm basing my assertion on assumptions that I've pulled from my arse.
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