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Old 02-14-2003, 07:23 AM   #151
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Read the rest of that-my post, Ultron. Fer Sher, the *Marbury v. Madison* decision IZZ an argument/response to your prior complaints. You can look it up. Try *google*. Maturin, where are you?
(The OED probably offers "arguement" as an alt. spelling for "argument". What the heck, we know what you mean, which is all that "correct" spelling matters for; except for class-status preening.)
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Old 02-14-2003, 08:27 AM   #152
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I'm fully aware of Marbury vs Madison and stare decisis but you haven't presented any arguement, still.

I could care less about spelling mistakes, personally. I know what you mean.

Here's a good primer from a neutral site on the emergence of judicial review.

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/c...icle03/13.html
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Old 02-14-2003, 08:33 AM   #153
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"I personally do not believe in burning the flag. It's a personal belief, but I'll tell you something, I think people are overreacting, oh, just a little bit.

"Hey buddy, my daddy died for that flag."

"Well, I bought mine. Sorry. You know they sell them at K-Mart for three bucks, you're in, you're out, brand new flag, no violence was necessary."

"Hey buddy, my daddy died in the Korean war for that flag."

"What a coincidence - my flag was made in Korea!"


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Old 02-14-2003, 08:43 AM   #154
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you might want to check out his other posts, I have discussed several issues with him. I do not base my opinion on only this issue. as I have said before, I dont just call everyone who disagrees with me antiamerican. but kreiger is.
Hey since you disagree with my political views, does that mean that I get to call you a stupid, inbred redneck?

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furthermore, kreiger spent most of the thread about black history month calling me a racist. which I found kind of irritating to be honest.
LOL, what a pathetic lie. You made a racist comment in that thread, and then you tried to claim that you were "quoting" someone else (yet there was no indication that you had quoted anyone before you made a HUGE edit to the original post). And I never called you a racist, but your pathetic lies about this topic just speak volumes about your character.
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Old 02-14-2003, 09:07 AM   #155
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Meantime, I alarm Stephen Maturin here at EyeEye to explain to you, Person, the significance of that very-early-decision, *Marbury v. Madison*, . . .
Ahoy there, Abe!

I haven't been following this thread too closely, but judging from one of the posts back on Page 5, I suspect that Ultron knows all about Marbury v. Madison, 5 U.S. (1 Cranch) 137 (1803). He just believes the case was wrongly decided.

I've never found any of the arguments against the doctrine of judicial review even remotely persuasive. But hey, the world would be an insufferably dull place if we all thought alike.
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Old 02-14-2003, 07:46 PM   #156
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Hey since you disagree with my political views, does that mean that I get to call you a stupid, inbred redneck?

LOL, what a pathetic lie. You made a racist comment in that thread, and then you tried to claim that you were "quoting" someone else (yet there was no indication that you had quoted anyone before you made a HUGE edit to the original post). And I never called you a racist, but your pathetic lies about this topic just speak volumes about your character.
Why did you never call red dave a racist. please prove that I am lying. I would really appreciate that. Their is a difference between calling someone a stupid, inbred redneck and antiamerican. I assert that you dislike, hate, despise or some combination thereof america. Thus you are antiamerican. If I am wrong please say it. The edit I made to my post added two quotation marks and the line that I edited it to keep dipshits from thinking that I wasnt quoting red dave. My assertion in that post still stands, I think that the fact I was quoting red dave was pretty obvious and someone would have to be a dipshit to not see that.


I do think that your tactics are pretty interesting. Name calling and disparaging remarks about my character. I am anticommunism in that I dilike, hate and/or despise communism. If someone called me an anticommunist, my response would be, "hell yes I am." I wouldnt spend the rest of my life calling the person that said it a racist and a liar. I think that my posts on this forum point to the fact that I do not like communism so someone could safely come to the conclusion that I am anticommunism. I used the above method to come to the conclusion that you are antiamerican. Are you now asserting that you are not? Do not dislike, despise, and/or hate america?


So, I ask again. Why didnt you call red dave a racist?

and I also challenge you to prove that I am a racist.
or a liar.
or an inbred redneck.


call me whatever you like, I will remain unimpressed by your hollow assertions.
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Their is a difference between calling someone a stupid, inbred redneck and antiamerican.
LOL, no there isn't; those are both examples of name-calling. So if you enjoy calling people that don't support the US ruling-class "anti-American" then I will start calling pro-ruling-class people "stupid, inbred rednecks". And since your beloved ruling-class is exploiting the American people (and the rest of the world) I could call you "anti-American" as well.

So my point is, if you want to call names, fine, but don't go pee-pee pants when I return fire.

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I do think that your tactics are pretty interesting. Name calling and disparaging remarks about my character.
You're the only person here that is name-calling and once again, you are also lying.
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Old 02-14-2003, 08:22 PM   #158
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I respectfully disagree. Where are we given such a right to burn anything we want? The First Amendment literally applies to speech.

"Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech"

Let's take a look at that word using definitions from www.dictionary.com

speech The faculty or act of speaking. The faculty or act of expressing or describing thoughts, feelings, or perceptions by the articulation of words. Something spoken; an utterance. Vocal communication; conversation. A formal spoken communication delivered to an audience. Communication by word of mouth. Something spoken

Burning flags is as protected Constitutionally as burning crosses or burning firewood.
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LOL, no there isn't; those are both examples of name-calling. So if you enjoy calling people that don't support the US ruling-class "anti-American" then I will start calling pro-ruling-class people "stupid, inbred rednecks". And since your beloved ruling-class is exploiting the American people (and the rest of the world) I could call you "anti-American" as well.

So my point is, if you want to call names, fine, but don't go pee-pee pants when I return fire.

You're the only person here that is name-calling and once again, you are also lying.
you didnt address my points.


try again.

as to your post
you seem to have three points.

I will address them.

1. antiamerican is pretty recognizable as someone who doesnt like america. inbred redneck is not recognizable as pro ruling class people. so it would not be a meaningful term.

2. I dont recall going "pee pee pants" you want to define that one.

3. how am I lying, want to prove, offer evidence, etc?
You dont call people names directly, instead you hide behind what ifs and seems. I am simply more direct and honest. The other difference of course is that I dont aim for offensive I am for honest.
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LOL, Beleyzu, I already addressed your "points" and if you're having a hard time understanding something then just re-read my posts. I'm not going to play one of those "post the reply over and over" games.
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