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Dr.GH · 02-04-2002, 12:16 PM

I can recommend "The Triumph of Evolution: And the Failure of Creationism" by Niles Eldredge 2001 New York:W.H. Freeman and Co.

Also "Get a Grip on Evolution" by David Burnie 1999, London:The Ivy Press Limited.

Very accessable, particularly Burnie's book.

By the by, being a Christian does not mean that you need, or should be a creationist.

StrongMan · 02-04-2002, 02:31 PM

I just finished Science on Trial: The Case for Evolution (the last evolution book at my local library, have finally read them all

). I thought it was great, I wish I would've read it first. I also read The River Out of Eden, it was another great book I would recommend.

Island3 · 02-04-2002, 03:13 PM

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Originally posted by uncle_onion:
<strong>My book club is pushing a book at the moment called "Evolution, a triumph of an idea" by Carl Zimmer. Has anyone read it. I am a new comer to this after being a Xtian for so long.Can anyone recommend another book that is good for newbies?

UO</strong>

Well there is one that I think is pretty good. Now if I could just remember the name...

Heath Anderson · 02-04-2002, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by uncle_onion:
<strong>My book club is pushing a book at the moment called "Evolution, a triumph of an idea" by Carl Zimmer. Has anyone read it. I am a new comer to this after being a Xtian for so long.Can anyone recommend another book that is good for newbies?

UO</strong>

I've read that - I found it really good, but I have to concur that Dawkin's books "River out of Eden" "Selfish Gene" "Blind Watchmaker" and "Climbing Mount Improbable" are better. Also anything by Stephen J Gould and also that "Trilobite" book.

uncle_onion · 02-11-2002, 06:14 AM

I just got "getting a grip on evolution" from the library. Ill let you know how I get on.

UO

Daggah · 02-11-2002, 08:03 AM

And I'm working on The Blind Watchmaker. I was really impressed by the biomorph stuff.

Actually, though, one thing that struck me as (yet more) powerful evidence was the convergent-but-not-quite-the-same evolution of similiar features in similiar organisms. The Blind Watchmaker is a quite enjoyable read - enjoyable enough that it's keeping me away from A Game of Thrones, and I love fantasy literature.

Kevin Dorner · 02-11-2002, 09:13 AM

Unrelated, but I did happen to find <a href="http://www.gainesvillesun.com/articles/2002-02-11c.shtml" target="_blank">this article</a> on Zimmer today.

abe smith · 02-12-2002, 07:09 AM

Any general text by ERNST MAYR, esp. "What Evolution Is" {quite new; much recommended ,after me} and "This is Biology" Have I got that right/? Mayr isn't perfect: who is? but if you want to know stuff, hit him. Abe

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02-04-2002, 12:16 PM	#11
Dr.GH Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Dana Point, Ca, USA Posts: 2,115	I can recommend "The Triumph of Evolution: And the Failure of Creationism" by Niles Eldredge 2001 New York:W.H. Freeman and Co. Also "Get a Grip on Evolution" by David Burnie 1999, London:The Ivy Press Limited. Very accessable, particularly Burnie's book. By the by, being a Christian does not mean that you need, or should be a creationist.

02-04-2002, 02:31 PM	#12
StrongMan Regular Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Bumblefuck Posts: 488	I just finished Science on Trial: The Case for Evolution (the last evolution book at my local library, have finally read them all ). I thought it was great, I wish I would've read it first. I also read The River Out of Eden, it was another great book I would recommend.

02-11-2002, 06:14 AM	#15
uncle_onion Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: uk Posts: 81	I just got "getting a grip on evolution" from the library. Ill let you know how I get on. UO

02-11-2002, 08:03 AM	#16
Daggah Banned Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Deployed to Kosovo Posts: 4,314	And I'm working on The Blind Watchmaker. I was really impressed by the biomorph stuff. Actually, though, one thing that struck me as (yet more) powerful evidence was the convergent-but-not-quite-the-same evolution of similiar features in similiar organisms. The Blind Watchmaker is a quite enjoyable read - enjoyable enough that it's keeping me away from A Game of Thrones, and I love fantasy literature.

02-11-2002, 09:13 AM	#17
Kevin Dorner Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 762	Unrelated, but I did happen to find <a href="http://www.gainesvillesun.com/articles/2002-02-11c.shtml" target="_blank">this article</a> on Zimmer today.

02-12-2002, 07:09 AM	#18
abe smith Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: springfield, MA. USA Posts: 2,482	Any general text by ERNST MAYR, esp. "What Evolution Is" {quite new; much recommended ,after me} and "This is Biology" Have I got that right/? Mayr isn't perfect: who is? but if you want to know stuff, hit him. Abe

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