NHGH

Well, anti-gay bigotry typically has its roots in religious fanaticism, and I've never known you to offer anything remotely resembling a credible secular argument to support your stance regarding homosexuals, so it's an obvious inference to draw. But you're right; strictly speaking, the first does not imply the second, so I apologize. I should have said "anti-gay bigot" instead of "religious fanatic".
I didn't say (or even imply) that you had the power to force anyone to say anything; I just pointed out that you had called on them to do so, which is (uncontroversially) accurate, and speaks volumes about you.
I think I've already made my views on this subject reasonably clear, so any such rhetorical gesture on my part would simply be redundant.

Hedwig

What do you mean by "people like you"?



Since I don't know their reasoning behind that particular decision, I don't know. Do I personally think that it was a bad decision on their part? Of course.



You don't know me IRL, so you don't know what I have or haven't said about NAMBLA.




Every single person in the parade that was not in the NAMBLA entry, including the organizers, could easily find NAMBLA to be as despicable as most everyone in society does and they might still have found a way to march. I don't know why the parade organizers allowed their entry...do you?


Ummm...okay. And what does that have to do with it?

How is my requesting to know why waxing defensive?

Hedwig

yguy

People who bristle with defensive hostility at the idea that the "gay" rights movement should cut NAMBLA loose.

There's a verbal step in the right direction. Took you long enough.

I know that, and that's the problem. Could they have found a way NOT to march?

What difference does it make, unless you see some possible advantage to the "gay" rights movement in their presence?

Your claim that you have nothing to prove to the straight community is a half-truth at best, since it is by our sufferance that you have the "rights" that you do.

Your requesting to know why isn't. Your trying to make me out to be evil for pointing out an obvious problem with the "gay" rights movement is.

yguy

That there are people in the homosexual rights movement who lack the moral courage to distance themselves from pedophilia, thus allowing its proponents to use the movement in parasitic fashion to further its cause.

joedad

Just couldn't resist chewing that a bit finer � as train wrecks go that is.

Dr Rick

Disturbing expressions of hypocritical bigotry can encourage free-thought in rational people by providing a troubling example of the opposite spewed from a mind befuddled by religion.

The power to repulse decent folk with hate speech should not be underestimated

What's truly remarkable in this challenge is the apparent absolute absence of any attempt to understand the opposing POV or respond to it with any logic or reasoning whatsoever. This can only be another attempt at encouraging others to employ free-thought rather than faith and prejudice.

yguy

I don't have a religion, so you don't know what the hell you're talking about - not that you care. All you're interested in is shoehorning me into your tunnel-visioned perspective.

This, of course, is abject self-deceit and projection. What I say makes you angry, but rather than see how dumb it is to get mad at words, you try to make me out to be the angry one.

Keep it up if you like. It won't hurt me.

Ahh, free-thought...such a romantically lofty idea...unfortunately, the minds of people who make excuses for parade organizers who let NAMBLA into the parade are anything but free.

Hedwig

Interesting little side note to all of this, I visited the Heritage of Pride website again today and they had the photos up. To view photos there is a drop list you have to click on and select which entry you want to see before continuing. I went through that list entry for entry and I didn't see NAMBLA anywhere. There is a discliamer on the bottom saying that they tried to get everyone but they might have missed a few...but still, I have to wonder if what the reporter saw were NAMBLA people who were on the sidelines or milling about near the parade route but not actually participating.

Just something interesting.

Dr Rick

RRRiiiight....and you don't have prejudice, either; you just happen not to like gays...

Quite a little burst of petulance, there...must have hit a nerve; however, it does no good to get angry at the truth. If one doesn't like himself and what he is, the best course of action is to change for the better.

"Mad at words"?! Is that anything like distraught over syllables or melancholy about punctuation?

It's not any of these things that induces anger; it's putting them together in a way that conveys hateful ideas that does.

Your temper-tantrums, insults, and name-calling betray your feelings.

It's really not all that difficult to obtain, and certainly nothing to be so frightened about...

...of course, those who have trouble with rational thinking may not find it so easy to abandon their prejudices and fantasies, but it's still worth a try.