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Old 04-20-2003, 11:09 PM   #141
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We are all human, we are not emotionless robots.
Sorry, I didn't read all your post thoroughly, but this one statement really stood out for me. I couldn't agree with it more.

So, why does fundamentalism deny the "human" in us humans? It appears to me to be anti-humanity.

Also, why is it so important for a CF moderator to simply be a one-eyed fundamentalist? Surely, it would better serve Christianity as a whole - as a living, loving force in the world - if the moderators were, well, moderate. (that is not to suggest they are bland in their faith; but that they are moderate in their actions and deeds, and better able to assist in maintainly civility on their boards).

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Old 04-20-2003, 11:10 PM   #142
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When I became a staff member at a Christian site, everything changed, I went from being a regular Christian to being a one track minded fundie (not because of the forum, because of me). I spent countless and I mean a huge amount of time, months, days and hours, stayed up till the wee hours helping to create rules and having meetings there only to be considered unworthy because I was a human and not a pawn, yea, I did some stupid things that I feel bad about, but I feel that I was treated as a lower class Christian for acting in a human type of way.
Susan once did a lot of things she later regretted, trying to show someone that she was a "good" Christian. Sounds like you had the same problem.

You're at your best when you let your compassion and instinct overrule what people have told you about dogma.
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Oh, and regarding Badfish/GTX - I'm sure you are a very nice person with a strong humanistic streak (at least that's what I get from what little I've seen here). The thing is a culture of deception was created and rationalised in such a way that you, and possibly many others, didn't think to question that rationale. The fact that you didn't question it, and did it without ill intent, still doesn't make it right, per se.
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You're at your best when you let your compassion and instinct overrule what people have told you about dogma.
Amen to that, Brother!

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Old 04-20-2003, 11:18 PM   #145
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Sorry, I didn't read all your post thoroughly, but this one statement really stood out for me. I couldn't agree with it more.

So, why does fundamentalism deny the "human" in us humans? It appears to me to be anti-humanity.

Also, why is it so important for a CF moderator to simply be a one-eyed fundamentalist? Surely, it would better serve Christianity as a whole - as a living, loving force in the world - if the moderators were, well, moderate. (that is not to suggest they are bland in their faith; but that they are moderate in their actions and deeds, and better able to assist in maintainly civility on their boards).

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Jesus would be himself, and people should realize that we are human and should be allowed to be human without being held in judgement. No one is perfect, no not one, not even the staff at a Christian forum.

I don't know Lunachick, everyone serves the Lord a little differently, even the ones that do not believe in him
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Yeah, I understand, but the thing is, you are a christian representative. If you have comments that are not christian, thats fine, but you shouldnt then turn around and pretend to uphold christianity if you are only upholding it half way. Its hypocritical to say things that are very representative of christianity and then turn around and say you are a representative of christianity, I would almost say that this is a form of false witness.



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See? I didn't see it as a mask, only a means to be myself without the baggage. GTX was not even known to the staff, it was a way for me to be me, without compromising my elite staff name, I wasn't just a Mod, I was a Senior Admin only answerable to a couple of people, and some of the things I wanted to say, probably would have been looked upon as unbefitting of a Christian representative.
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Yeah, I understand, but the thing is, you are a christian representative. If you have comments that are not christian, thats fine, but you shouldnt then turn around and pretend to uphold christianity if you are only upholding it half way. Its hypocritical to say things that are very representative of christianity and then turn around and say you are a representative of christianity, I would almost say that this is a form of false witness.
A lot of the things Badfish says that would be *looked at* as not suitable for a Christian representative are a lot better than what passes for Christian these days.
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True.

Considering some of the Christians that CF seems to say arent christian, I could see how they could consider BadFish non christian, and his views would hurt his moderation in that sense.

But I also dont consider BadFish as a good example, as in both forms he seemed similiar to me (although I dont wander christian only places, so im not too sure )

I still hold little for people who pretend to be two people so that what they can act like two different people.

As someone said, the measure of a person isnt how they act when people are watching, but how they act when they arent. Or something like that.


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A lot of the things Badfish says that would be *looked at* as not suitable for a Christian representative are a lot better than what passes for Christian these days.
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I do not see why moderators would need to have two names.
For debating...

CF is still relatively new, maybe it wasn't such a good idea to let the staff have two usernames but it was allowed. It wasn't supposed to be a bad thing, it was just a innocent decision made so the staff could feel free to debate without making the members feel imtimidated I guess.

I don't think Erwin or the staff in a whole should be judged by this as it wasn't meant to hurt anybody.

And I am just wondering how it can be proved that gunny is 2PAC when people share IP's. I mean I share a IP with half of CF. When I checked IP's there was always more than one person with the same IP.

Not sayin your wrong, just don't want to believe gunny is 2PAC.
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And I am just wondering how it can be proved that gunny is 2PAC when people share IP's. I mean I share a IP with half of CF. When I checked IP's there was always more than one person with the same IP.

Not sayin your wrong, just don't want to believe gunny is 2PAC.
That seems rather odd. I've never seen two people share an IP unless they lived in the same house.
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