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dangin · 09-10-2002, 12:23 PM

OK, with the group of you science types around here. (You've intimidated me so that I don't come to this forum much anymore) I was wondering if the "freethinking", pro science,(real science) people could come up with a new name for Creationism/ID.

ID is an attempt on our adversaries part to spif up creationism which was getting a bad name for itself, even among the general population and media.

If a unified name could be decided on, and enough real scientists started referring to ID with this new name, it could stick and filter out to the media. A suggestion:

Nontestable, faith based, pseudo-scientific sounding gibberish.

But it's too wordy.

Can anyone get the same meaning in a svelt, rolling off the tongue phrase?

simian · 09-10-2002, 12:32 PM

UCUAEC

Unstate Creator, Unstated Age, Earth Creationism
(paralleling the YEC/OEC structure)

The best I can come up with at the minute. This doen't roll off the tongue, but does state what I see in that group of creationists.

Simian

Starboy · 09-10-2002, 12:40 PM

How about religion, or does that have a bad name also?

Starboy

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Peez · 09-10-2002, 12:51 PM

Quote:

dangin:
OK, with the group of you science types around here. (You've intimidated me so that I don't come to this forum much anymore)

Aaaaaak! Do not be intimidated by the "science types"! Very often it is the non-scientist types who formulate the best asnwers to creationist crap.

Quote:

I was wondering if the "freethinking", pro science,(real science) people could come up with a new name for Creationism/ID...

Can anyone get the same meaning in a svelt, rolling off the tongue phrase?

How about "crap"?

Peez

Tom Sawyer · 09-10-2002, 01:01 PM

How about:

<clamps hands over ears>
LALALALALA! I don't want to listen to reason! LALALALALA!
</clamps hands over ears>

Duvenoy · 09-10-2002, 01:17 PM

Quote:

<clamps hands over ears>
LALALALALA! I don't want to listen to reason! LALALALALA!
</clamps hands over ears>

Huh?

doov

Captn Kidd · 09-10-2002, 01:26 PM

How about "Invisible Designer".

It implies the somewhat silly notion of an invisible object running through everything micromanaging it all, yet somehow, we can't see it.

RufusAtticus · 09-10-2002, 01:33 PM

How about:

Fear of Naturalism Creationism

mb · 09-10-2002, 01:47 PM

By all means use "cretinism". That will impress everyone with the balance and reason of the anti-ID position.

Duvenoy · 09-10-2002, 02:12 PM

Hm. Lesse........

ID= Ignorance Derived, Internally Demonized, Into (the) Dark, Intellectually De-railed, Incorperated Dingbats, Interesting Delusions, and, oh hell, I dunno, maybe: Distressed Illuminati.

doov

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09-10-2002, 12:23 PM	#1
dangin Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: The Middle, Kansas Posts: 2,637	One Small idea about ID and Cretinism OK, with the group of you science types around here. (You've intimidated me so that I don't come to this forum much anymore) I was wondering if the "freethinking", pro science,(real science) people could come up with a new name for Creationism/ID. ID is an attempt on our adversaries part to spif up creationism which was getting a bad name for itself, even among the general population and media. If a unified name could be decided on, and enough real scientists started referring to ID with this new name, it could stick and filter out to the media. A suggestion: Nontestable, faith based, pseudo-scientific sounding gibberish. But it's too wordy. Can anyone get the same meaning in a svelt, rolling off the tongue phrase?

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09-10-2002, 12:32 PM	#2
simian Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: St. Louis, MO area Posts: 1,924	UCUAEC Unstate Creator, Unstated Age, Earth Creationism (paralleling the YEC/OEC structure) The best I can come up with at the minute. This doen't roll off the tongue, but does state what I see in that group of creationists. Simian

09-10-2002, 12:40 PM	#3
Starboy Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Tallahassee, FL Reality Adventurer Posts: 5,276	How about religion, or does that have a bad name also? Starboy [ September 10, 2002: Message edited by: Starboy ]</p>

09-10-2002, 01:01 PM	#5
Tom Sawyer Talk Freethought Staff Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto, eh Posts: 42,293	How about: <clamps hands over ears> LALALALALA! I don't want to listen to reason! LALALALALA! </clamps hands over ears>

09-10-2002, 01:26 PM	#7
Captn Kidd Regular Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 166	How about "Invisible Designer". It implies the somewhat silly notion of an invisible object running through everything micromanaging it all, yet somehow, we can't see it.

09-10-2002, 01:33 PM	#8
RufusAtticus Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NCSU Posts: 5,853	How about: Fear of Naturalism Creationism

09-10-2002, 01:47 PM	#9
mb Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 13	By all means use "cretinism". That will impress everyone with the balance and reason of the anti-ID position.

09-10-2002, 02:12 PM	#10
Duvenoy Veteran Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Just another hick from the sticks. Posts: 1,108	Hm. Lesse........ ID= Ignorance Derived, Internally Demonized, Into (the) Dark, Intellectually De-railed, Incorperated Dingbats, Interesting Delusions, and, oh hell, I dunno, maybe: Distressed Illuminati. doov [ September 10, 2002: Message edited by: Duvenoy ]</p>

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