Stephen T-B

“ In case you wonder, that is what the "soaring wich" image is all about wherein the the broom is their sola scriptura recipe that was brewed up down below on which they now sore through midheaven while burning scriptures to stay aloft.”

Is it because I’m a dumb atheist that posts we see here at Infidels by some Christians don’t even begin to make sense? I mean, what DOES that mean? Do I need to strain my brain trying to unravel it, or should I just drink another cup of tea?
I'm going to strain my brain: we’ve got this “soaring wich” (my spelling’s pretty bad but even I know there’s something wrong in that phrase) on a broom, while burning scriptures in order to stay aloft? How do the burning scriptures do that? Is the broom - or “sola scriptura” - attached to a hot-air balloon? Or are the burning scriptures stuffed into some kind of rocket motor and used by it as fuel?

The reason Amos is troubling isn’t because his posts are largely nonsensical, it’s because in this thread he is attempting to load guilt on Blondegoddess, like it’s all her fault that his god is playing games with her by simply not being there. This: “The reason you can’t see god is because you don’t want to, so just try a bit harder or you’ll go to hell,” obscures the real reason why NO ONE can see god.
God’s invisible.
Does he intervene in human affairs - I mean stop wars, prevent famines, protect believers from rape and murder and disease? No.
What does he do, apart from make people feel guilty about having trouble believing in him?
God doesn’t do anything. It’s not even god that gives believers a good feeling. It’s their belief in god which does that, and the services they go to and the devotional literature they read and the sermons they hear and the hymns they sing and the prayers they say and the other believers they meet.
An invisible god which doesn’t do anything: why oh why oh why do people round here have difficulty believing there is such a thing?

Amos

Our God is onmipresent but Lucifer is not. He is the angel of light that roams by day and leaves no rest at night. He is the one that must be reinforced every morning also called is sola sciptura because of this.

Amos is not even trying to "make hay when the sun shines" but when he "calls a demon by name he will be expelled from the house" and that is how blondegoddess must be set free. I love it.

Thieving Magpie

Amos is not as bad as many of your seem to believe. If he is right in his faith, then he is right in what he says. We are no better, just because we have faith in different things.

I think, (and this may be considered imposing) that perhaps Amos has a lot to say (which may account for his writing style) but does not feel that he necessarily has the time, or willingness to explain it thoroughly. I believe that I understand what he is saying in this thread, and it is not that surprising, or that rare. He raises points which ought to be addressed - they are not merely incoherent psycho-babble.

I encourage you all to keep an open mind.. is that not what II is about?

Amos

The problem is that it will become a world wide reform and I don't see how we are going to get the rest of the world to burn all its bibles.

brighid

Thieving Magpie,

Well ... as a junior user you simply haven't had the plethura of experience attempting to decode famous Amosisms ... in time you too will learn. Maybe, somewhere in the far recesses of your twain mind (which interestingly and contrary to Amos' assertations works rather poorly in the male brain and actually much better in the female), when you are on psychotropic drugs you will be able to find something of value in his statements. Occassionally the wax poetic and philisophical and then he will go and ruin his credibility with his rabid anti-Protestantism and his rants about the real existence of witches and the inferiority of women .... and blah, blah, blah ....

We have all had to learn the hard way.

Brighid

HaysooChreesto!

A statement like that is one of the many things that led me to deconvert. The psychological detriments of religion are many.
Guilt and fear go hand in hand and religion exploits that to it's fullest.
BlondeGoddess, I would encourage you to read Robert Ingersoll. The first book I read by him was "Some Mistakes of Moses".

If there is a god, then it gave you a mind to think with. Religion by it's very nature stifles that idea. So think, ponder, and educate yourself and come to your own conclusions.

Amos

Hello Brighid, how are you? Inferiority of woman? In Gen.3 it clearly states that woman saw that the tree of knowledge was good for gaining wisdom, beauty and food. This puts woman in charge of our destiny and our ego is just the idiot who thinks he is.

Don't you see that witches crash every day and does the intensity of their fire not depend on the amount and strength they drank from the cup of Gods anger while they glorified themselves? (Rev.14:10).

Thieving Magpie

That's a rather convenient argument to make. If I was a senior user with 3000+ posts, would that make my reasoning any more sound.. much like.. say.. Amos is?

Argumentum ad Hominem, anyone?

brighid

Thieving Magpie,

Hmmmmmm ... not really, but stick around and formulate your own opinions. That was just mine and one formulated from experience. Sometimes one actually needs experience and it certainly wasn't meant as any sort of dig at you and I apologize if it came across as such. But wouldn't you say that someone who has spent years here might actually have a foundation on which to formulate a more educated opinion, whereas someone who has only spent a short time here might not and therefore this time frame does in fact have some relevance?



Brighid

Thieving Magpie

Relevance, yes - fact, not necessarily.