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Old 02-04-2002, 12:54 AM   #11
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The reason that it matters to me is that I want such "Christians" to get over it and move on. I don't like the idea of a watered-down Christianity which is made more palatable to the masses so that it can hang on longer than it otherwise would. I want it to die a natural death, and the sooner the better.

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Practically speaking though, do you think that people with 'a watered-down view of Christianity' perpetuate the things about Christianity that you find objectionable?

I thought it was 'fundies' who did that. People with 'watered-down' Christianity tend to be more left in their politics - or at least least dogmatic if they are right-wing and they don't tend to go in for aggressive evangelism - in my experience.

What do you think, Don? What are people with 'watered down Christianity' actually doing i the world which bothers you?

I don't see them as being particularly sustaining of fundamentalism because fundamentalists see them as non-Christians anyway. In fact fundamentalists probably see them as more 'the enemy' than outright nonbelievers in some ways, since these 'wrongly-believing-Christians' are going to confuse and deceive others with half-truths...

Oh, I suppose they might perpetuate theism by making it seem more reasonable...but again, what iare the practical problems of that, given that it is 'watered-down'?

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<strong>The reason that it matters to me is that I want such "Christians" to get over it and move on. I don't like the idea of a watered-down Christianity which is made more palatable to the masses so that it can hang on longer than it otherwise would. I want it to die a natural death, and the sooner the better.</strong>
Don, I’m sure you don’t deny that there are some positives associated with the more liberal edges of humanist Christianity.

Why must you change these liberal Christians to your worldview ? I think many / most of them are quite happy for people such as yourself to choose atheism.

Different worldviews suit different people and some prefer more spirituality than others. Because you follow a more secular belief system, does this make them wrong ?

Does this make atheism the only acceptable worldview ? For myself, acceptance of others and a strong degree of pluralism is an important part of humanism. Intolerance of worldview can be interpreted as being non-humanistic.

No this doesn’t mean I have to accept violence and coercion as humanistically acceptable BTW, but I think you’ll find nor do liberal Christians, and nor do enlightened atheists.

Yours in agnosticism.
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Old 02-04-2002, 09:41 PM   #13
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On liberal Christianity and fundamentalist Christianity:

You can either destroy both, or destroy neither- as long as one is alive and healthy, the Bible- one of the most depraved books ever written- has its lifeblood, and as long as the Bible stands, either can make a comeback. All of the cancer must be cut out.
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