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Old 04-22-2003, 02:02 AM   #361
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There are numerous songs that date from the US civil war that would be at home at peace marches today. Though, the protesters would have to learn how to sing as opposed to shouting them out.


Hey you boys, take my advice
To Amerikay I'd have you not be comin'
For there's nothing here but war
Where the murdering cannons roar
And I wish that I was back in dear old Dublin.
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Old 04-22-2003, 02:04 AM   #362
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It is at least above the rubbish that you spouted at CF and the manipulation of the power you were given. This is not vitriol but a statement of facts.I hope it makes you realise what people think of your duplicity and lies. May you learn humility
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Old 04-22-2003, 02:15 AM   #363
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Ok, I know I'm not a mod, but there are none around right now - but let's get back on topic, eh? - allowing this to descend into a flame war will only detract from the issue of honesty, accomplishing nothing.



Seebs has a good point here. This question has been avoided by GySgt.

Any answers, Gunny?
I have never stated that a user name "tupac" was banned at IIDB nor any other message board website. IIDB powers to be made allegations regarding the nefarious "tupac" individual and that the username "gysgt" were one in the same.

Once again, when I arrived at IIDB I was treated in a cordial manner.

Since being tried, sentenced and convicted by the IIDB staff, I have been accused of being a racist, chauvinist, biggoted, liar, stupid, brainwashed, etc.

I have not made any accustions of anyone nor stated anyone was that which I have been labeled since the "tupac" scenario was posted by IDDB staff.

If individuals derive pleasure from engaing in accusatory language coupled with caustic remarks that is not my concern.

I do not judge, condemn and label individuals with the ferocity that appears to have been directed at myself since IIDB staff began with their public charges.
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Old 04-22-2003, 02:36 AM   #364
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I have never stated that a user name "tupac" was banned at IIDB nor any other message board website. IIDB powers to be made allegations regarding the nefarious "tupac" individual and that the username "gysgt" were one in the same.
Okay. But there are such great similarities in the 2PAC character and what you have created here: -

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Interesting scenario.

An individual created two(2) identical user names and used the exact same dialogue generated by a slang translator. One of the user names was created at CF and one at IIDB.

The user name account lasted less than twenty-four (24) hours at IIDB. The user name account lasted just shy of seventy-two (72) hours at CF.

The user name account at IIDB was booted by negating entrance into forum (same script prior to original administration approval to post).
Given what you know about the slang translator and the timing of the ban - both are, I would imagine, rare pest and pest-control circumstances - and then the following up of a million to one chance of you sharing an IP address with the user who was recognised by your own profiling of the situation, you can't really blame people for not believing your pleas of innocence in this.

If you are not 2PAC, and 2PAC is not the user referenced in the scenario you chose to share with us, then who is the user you were referencing for whatever point you were trying to make?
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Old 04-22-2003, 02:50 AM   #365
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Moral of the story- Regardless of belief or non-belief, If one is going to talk the talk, than they should be committed to walking the walk.

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Exactly.

That's why we'd like you to be honest and explain the relationship between you and the 2PAC posts. Isn't honesty part of 'walking the walk'?

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Old 04-22-2003, 02:58 AM   #366
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I have never stated that a user name "tupac" was banned at IIDB nor any other message board website. IIDB powers to be made allegations regarding the nefarious "tupac" individual and that the username "gysgt" were one in the same.
Why the mispelling of the name 2PAC? Are you still trying to throw the hounds off the scent?

The username "2PAC" has been used enough in this thread that you should know damned well how it's spelled, even if it's not you- so mispelling it shows you are either not taking any notice of previous posts(highly unlikely, considering you are actually answering some of them), or you are now attempting a last-gasp effort to create a false impression of non-knowledge of this identity.

Of course, I could be getting the wrong impression, here. Feel free to prove me wrong.
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If you are not 2PAC, and 2PAC is not the user referenced in the scenario you chose to share with us, then who is the user you were referencing for whatever point you were trying to make?
If you have concerns about privacy, an alternative is to PM an admin with the information so that your story can be verified. I trust our admins to be honest and forthcoming with the truth.
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Old 04-22-2003, 03:31 AM   #368
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If you are not 2PAC, and 2PAC is not the user referenced in the scenario you chose to share with us, then who is the user you were referencing for whatever point you were trying to make?

I as many IIDB posters was directing my statements (within a thread post) to an individual who has full awarness that I was speaking to him. I had no need to publically state his user name nor villify him (as what has taken place following IIDB staff publically stating the tupac scenario) and make a breach of confidentialty. I wish no one to twist in the wind while others hurl accusations and colorful descriptions of chracter flaws. I would rather have it done to me than to engage in this "mob rule" mentality.

Originally IIDB incorrectly assumed I was condemming IIDB moderation policy when I was engaged in making public statements(without breeching this individual's confidentiality) directly to one indivdual.

After the IIDB staff made public the "tupac" scenario coupled with several statements regarding the underpinnings of the internet the mud slinging began with the IIDB staff demanding an apology for that which they have accused me off (though I vehemently deny this "tupac" scenario regardless of the long detailed description of the internet) thus setting of a chain reaction of volitile comments accusing and condemming myself in descriptive fashion.

Once again, if those that want to judge, accuse and condem to fufill some unmet need then by all means proceed with this action.

I would rather be judged harshly, then to judge an individual harshly.

I would rather be called demeaning metaphors than to lay these charges at another.

I would rather be the object of scorn than to treat another individual in a scornful manner.
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Old 04-22-2003, 03:46 AM   #369
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The problem, gunny, is that it's an ASTOUNDING coincidence that your description fits 2PAC so well - 2PAC happening to share your IP address - and yet, no one can find any *OTHER* users who have used a slang filter and been banned within a day. Nor can anyone suggest how anyone but the user himself would know when he was banned.

The fact is, between this and your behavior in other threads, and your previous attitude towards the morality of lying to or attacking "infidels"... it's really hard to imagine that this is anything but more of the same double standard you have publically declared over on CF.

You have made it clear before that you do not feel you have moral obligations to heathens. It seems that this fits awfully well with the history described.

It sure doesn't seem like what Jesus would do. Jesus was humble and honest. He didn't go to great lengths to rationalize how some people didn't "count" for purposes of His moral code.
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Old 04-22-2003, 03:52 AM   #370
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Well, I'm sorry GySgt, but you seem very disingenuous to me. Either you are 2PAC, or someone in your household is. It strikes me that you have always had knowledge of 2PAC's inception, and been a willing participant in the ridiculous deceit, even if you weren't the one doing the typing. I dunno, maybe it was one of your children - if you have children, that is. Either way, the creation of this troll named 2PAC says a great deal.

What on earth was 2PAC's purpose supposed to be? A childish prank? A way of gathering some rather useless data for comparison? What, exactly?

I have no idea what point you were trying to make in describing the "interesting scenario" way back on page 2, but in doing so you have revealed a great deal (to me, at least) about yourself.

Disappointing. Very disappointing.

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