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Vibr8gKiwi · 10-24-2002, 11:46 AM

Yes they do, but generally they are clueless what it's like to be a minority. Just pay attention--usually cases where there are claims of persecution are just situations where they aren't allowed to push their religion on others. For example if someone wins a point for church/state separation, suddenly Christians are being persecuted and the founding father�s plans intentions are being thwarted. They even invent persecution--like with that girl in the columbine massacre.

simian · 10-24-2002, 11:56 AM

Occasionally they are even really persecuted minorities. Of course, in this country it is because they are being persecuted by other Christians: case in point the Santa Fe football prayer case. Cathoic and Mormon families were experiencing persucution by school officials because they were not the right brand of Christianity. (This is the case in TX a couple of years ago that made it to the Supreme Court with the focus being the prayers at the football games instead of the more general persecution they faced at the school). Now, if only there was a way to get all Christians to understand THEY can be the ones being picked on for no reason other than that they are true to what the believe (or don't believe).

Simian

Arrowman · 10-24-2002, 07:46 PM

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Originally posted by The Other Michael:
Don't many of them already claim the status of a persecuted minority?

From a letter to the editor in my local paper today....(NB as of the latest census, Australia is something like 70% Christian)

(emphasis mine)

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I suspect this [singing the national anthem at school assembly] will never happen again in this country, unfortunately, because there is a majority of ethnic religions that will make all sorts of objections....

The human capacity for self-delusion and denial of reality never ceases to amaze.

Goriller · 10-24-2002, 10:36 PM

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Originally posted by Vibr8gKiwi:
Of course you'd like that--because you're in the majority. That would allow whoever is in the majority to basically trample over all the minority.

Does this mean you are against the majority of middle to lower income people voting for representatives to tax the living daylights out of the comparatively few "wealthy" people?

Toto · 10-24-2002, 10:41 PM

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Originally posted by Goriller:

Does this mean you are against the majority of middle to lower income people voting for representatives to tax the living daylights out of the comparatively few "wealthy" people?

Please stay on topic. Take your class warfare issues to the Politics forum.

Toto · 10-25-2002, 12:14 AM

This Muslim is suing under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act. Here is another religious discrimination case:

<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Religion-Briefs.html" target="_blank">A woman who was fired from her job at a Costco store for refusing to remove her eyebrow ring has sued the discount retailer, saying the company violated her religious beliefs.</a>

She belongs to the <a href="http://www.churchofbodmod.com" target="_blank">Church of Body Modification</a>.

I don't think she has as strong a case. She is claiming Costco has to accomodate her religious beliefs, but employee appearance usually overrides religious requirement.

Frogsy · 11-08-2002, 11:13 AM

Man... no more eating at Chick-Fil-A when I go to Maryland... *sigh*

As my boyfriend said, "But evil never tasted so good!" (he loves the chicken biscuits!)

Mecha_Dude · 11-09-2002, 02:58 PM

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"But evil never tasted so good!"

I'll secomd that, i'm in love with the littel chicken nuggets...
But eating stuff from evil organizations is something i don't mind...
*munches on boyscout popcorn*

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10-24-2002, 11:46 AM	#11
Vibr8gKiwi Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: CA, USA Posts: 543	Yes they do, but generally they are clueless what it's like to be a minority. Just pay attention--usually cases where there are claims of persecution are just situations where they aren't allowed to push their religion on others. For example if someone wins a point for church/state separation, suddenly Christians are being persecuted and the founding father�s plans intentions are being thwarted. They even invent persecution--like with that girl in the columbine massacre.

10-24-2002, 11:56 AM	#12
simian Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: St. Louis, MO area Posts: 1,924	Occasionally they are even really persecuted minorities. Of course, in this country it is because they are being persecuted by other Christians: case in point the Santa Fe football prayer case. Cathoic and Mormon families were experiencing persucution by school officials because they were not the right brand of Christianity. (This is the case in TX a couple of years ago that made it to the Supreme Court with the focus being the prayers at the football games instead of the more general persecution they faced at the school). Now, if only there was a way to get all Christians to understand THEY can be the ones being picked on for no reason other than that they are true to what the believe (or don't believe). Simian

10-25-2002, 12:14 AM	#16
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	This Muslim is suing under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act. Here is another religious discrimination case: <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Religion-Briefs.html" target="_blank">A woman who was fired from her job at a Costco store for refusing to remove her eyebrow ring has sued the discount retailer, saying the company violated her religious beliefs.</a> She belongs to the <a href="http://www.churchofbodmod.com" target="_blank">Church of Body Modification</a>. I don't think she has as strong a case. She is claiming Costco has to accomodate her religious beliefs, but employee appearance usually overrides religious requirement.

11-08-2002, 11:13 AM	#17
Frogsy Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Okemos, MI Posts: 9	Man... no more eating at Chick-Fil-A when I go to Maryland... sigh As my boyfriend said, "But evil never tasted so good!" (he loves the chicken biscuits!)

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