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Valmorian · 11-28-2002, 06:15 AM

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Originally posted by Frivolous:
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It's much harder to create the tools than use them
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*chuckle* Tell that to a painter.

winstonjen · 11-28-2002, 12:49 PM

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Originally posted by happyboy:
<strong>frviolous, there is no need for a god of ANY kind. back in dark ages europe, we had a culture dominated by christianity, and it led to some of the darkest and most horrible human rights abuses we have ever seen. i for one am done with the idea of "all loving God" who also preaches hate at the same time. </strong>

While there were horrible atrocities in the Middle Ages, they weren't caused by Christian teachings, IMHO. They were caused by people who perverted and twisted the teachings to their own ends.

Vesica · 12-02-2002, 09:31 AM

Arrg! How did this thread too degenerate into a whine that Christianity as a belief system is responsible for the Dark Ages of Europe?? Yes the church was there and involved and deserves some of the blame but no serious scholar of Medieval Europe is going to claim Christian doctrine was the entire cause!

I suspect that the Dark Ages of Europe always comes up because it is the only example anyone can think of...nothing of the centuries of Ethnic clensing the islands of the Pacific, nothing of the ancient Tibitans terrorizing Asia before their conversion to a peace loving faith, nothing about the bloodbaths in the Americas...you get the point. Pardon the rant, my patience had simply run out.

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12-02-2002, 09:31 AM	#23
Vesica Regular Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Sunny FLA USA Posts: 212	Arrg! How did this thread too degenerate into a whine that Christianity as a belief system is responsible for the Dark Ages of Europe?? Yes the church was there and involved and deserves some of the blame but no serious scholar of Medieval Europe is going to claim Christian doctrine was the entire cause! I suspect that the Dark Ages of Europe always comes up because it is the only example anyone can think of...nothing of the centuries of Ethnic clensing the islands of the Pacific, nothing of the ancient Tibitans terrorizing Asia before their conversion to a peace loving faith, nothing about the bloodbaths in the Americas...you get the point. Pardon the rant, my patience had simply run out.

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