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Old 04-20-2003, 05:39 AM   #11
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Music MUST be a sin. How else could you explain Top 40?
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LOL! Never mind Leo and Bill - I'm still giggling in a rather juvenile way over plumbums, and how they were so much cleaner.

Thanks, OperaNut.

Oh, and Rock'n'Roll is the devils music - that's why I like it so much. Take Black Sabbath, for example. Live Evil, baby.

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I know that Josh MacDowell has a lot to say on the topic - he wrote two books on the evil of music. However, if I recall correctly, he was completely unable to convince me simply because he could not dredge up any Biblical sources to back himself up.

Does anyone know of any verses that explicitly state (or inexplicitly impy) that music, or any other form of aural entertainment, is bad?
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Are you guys dissing Spock? "The Ballad of Bilbo Baggins" and "Highly Illogical" are classics. Download them, you won't be dissapointed. By that I mean you'll drive a stake through your face.
Oh yeah, andwatch this.

Oh, also "Twinkle Twinkle Little Earth".
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I know that Josh MacDowell has a lot to say on the topic - he wrote two books on the evil of music. However, if I recall correctly, he was completely unable to convince me simply because he could not dredge up any Biblical sources to back himself up.
What were his arguments? And what did he have to say about liturgical music?
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"Nothing is unclean by itself."

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"Nothing is unclean by itself."
That's not the opinion McDowell (or anyone else who takes his 'works' serious) holds.

For example, dance is bad. Not just social dancing - any type of dancing. It opens up the soul and allows Satan in (after all, Satan is definately unclean by himself). The same goes for music - Satan takes over the musicians as they perform their ungodly row, seeping into every note and then nestling comfortably in the brains of all innocent listeners. This is why today's youth is so corrupted .
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Are you guys dissing Spock? "The Ballad of Bilbo Baggins" and "Highly Illogical" are classics. Download them, you won't be dissapointed. By that I mean you'll drive a stake through your face.
Oh yeah, andwatch this.

Oh, also "Twinkle Twinkle Little Earth".
You can't say spock didn't get the mad hotties

And I thought MTV sucked

http://www.fatwreck.com/empee/50155.mp3
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Although doubtless many Christians will vehemently deny it, the Christian empire was not the first major civilisation to embrace and take serious regard to the art of music as opposed to a mere pastime. It was the Greeks that were the first to commission and honour music as a sacred art. Unfortunately, the Greeks had not developed a method writing any of this music down, and so their works were lost forever. It was only in Catholic Italy, many centuries later at the tail end of the Dark Ages that several monks, most notably the Christian musician Guido Monaco developed a "pneum" system of writing music down in what would eventually become traditional Western notation.

It was this that proved the first major step in the development of the age of Western Classical Music.


Does this, however, mean that the Christian religion can claim the art of music to be theirs and so dictate it's course?


NO!
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I'm sure that anti-music Fundies would say that this long tradition of liturgical music is just another example of how unbiblical the Catholic Church is.
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