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Old 01-27-2005, 09:17 PM   #41
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Frankly, I'm all for Israel's right to exist...atleast someone should teach muslims a lesson on taking other people's land
Oh, and just correcting this one bit of intellectual sewage: the Palestinians aren't "taking other people's land." That would be the Jews you are thinking of, Dharma.

And the idea that Muslims in Palestine should pay for (alleged and hypothetical) crimes in other areas is ridiculous. Should Latin American Christians pay for crimes committed by Swedish Lutherans?
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Old 01-27-2005, 09:23 PM   #42
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are you joking?


unlike palestinian terrorist groups, the jewish one was stop and put in jail.
Considering that the largest Jewish terrorist group is the IDF, your statement is pretty meaningless.

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and as far as i know, they didn't hurt anyone. they had plans though.
"As far as you know."

Well, I'm sure we can all sleep safely, assured of your expertise in such matters.

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Old 01-27-2005, 09:26 PM   #43
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If your anti-Israel sentiment has to do with your dislike of Jews
Stopped reading at this point. Why do you hate America, Alter?
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Old 01-27-2005, 09:30 PM   #44
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Okay, here's my challenge to you:
I have a counter-challenge: compose a hypothetical that bears any resemblance to reality. The example you offered fails.

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What would YOU do?
1. Put up a fucking huge inpenetrable wall on the green line.

2. Stop issuing tax breaks that encourage Israelis to settle in areas that are both (a) dangerous and (b) destined to be returned to Arabs.

3. Round up the right-wing orthodox Jewish parties and activist groups and treat them the way they deserve to be treated: as terrorist groups intent on spoiling the chances of peace.
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Old 01-27-2005, 10:13 PM   #45
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Except that most of those Palestinian "children" are in their mid to late teens and are rock-throwers and the like.
"Rock throwers and the like"!? ... seriously. Loren, you can do better than this.
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Old 01-27-2005, 10:15 PM   #46
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Israel doesn't even try.

Which is why they destroy entire neighborhoods in order to (allegedly) get at a single terrorist.

So even if such magic missiles were available, Israel woudln't use them because the neanderthal urge for revenge wouldn't be satisfied.
Oh, come on now. The biggest thing I've heard of them destroying when shooting at a terrorist is a house.

Bigger areas sometimes end up destroyed in battle. When the terrorists use buildings as firing points they should expect them to be destroyed. It's pretty hard to hit the guy in the building without hitting the building.
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"Rock throwers and the like"!? ... seriously. Loren, you can do better than this.
In other words, those who are fighting but below the level of weapons.
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Old 01-27-2005, 10:19 PM   #48
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Oh, come on now. The biggest thing I've heard of them destroying when shooting at a terrorist is a house.
But that requires that we rely upon Loren Pechtel's "hearing" and Loren's memory.

No one around here is willing to trust either one.

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Bigger areas sometimes end up destroyed in battle. When the terrorists use buildings as firing points they should expect them to be destroyed.
Except that isn't the case. We're talking about houses being destroyed for no reason whatsoever, except to make room for Jewish suburbs.
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Old 01-27-2005, 10:20 PM   #49
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In other words, those who are fighting but below the level of weapons.
No.

In other words, you need to do a better job of substantiating your basic claim. "Rock throwers and the like" utterly fails to do that.
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In other words, those who are fighting but below the level of weapons.
So then shoot them? Or if you kill them with a rocket, they still count as combatants?

I'm afraid I'm just totally missing what your actual argument here is.
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