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tronvillain · 03-08-2002, 09:57 AM

Corwin, it may feel as if you're hitting your head against a brick wall, but unfortunately for you it's because you're wrong. You have no theory to support your assertions.

Corwin · 03-08-2002, 10:16 AM

I suppose you missed the 'energy can neither be created nor destroyed' part?

tronvillain · 03-08-2002, 10:17 AM

No, it just doesn't support your position.

tronvillain · 03-08-2002, 10:19 AM

This is starting to get pathetic. Where did you learn anything about physics?

Corwin · 03-08-2002, 10:27 AM

Let's see.... I did go to school, didn't you? And had several excellent physics teachers.

Try doing a little research on atomic weapons for an idea of how pressure creates heat and concentrates energy. (specifically fusion bombs.... plutonium/uranium nukes are more a factor of the density created by the pressure... not so much with thermonukes.)

tronvillain · 03-08-2002, 10:39 AM

So, you made it through high school then? I find it amusing that you are completely unable to explain this magical theory of yours yet expect me to research it.

Corwin · 03-08-2002, 10:44 AM

What the hell is magical about it?

What happens when you shine light on an object? Oh, that's right... IT HEATS UP.

Energy changes from one form to another, in this case, from light to heat. In the case of what we've been talking about for days now, from kinetic force to heat. Heat is sort of the 'lowest common denominator' as far as energy is concerned. If you're going to 'lose' energy it will most likely be in the form of heat. (As in reflected light, electrical resistance, or friction.)

Quit trying to pigeonhole me as some sort of blissed out psudeoscientific nut. Your unwillingness to actually read what I'm posting and not put your own biases into it isn't my problem.

tronvillain · 03-08-2002, 10:53 AM

You don't want to be pigeonholed as a blissed out pseudoscientific nut? Stop acting like one: stop claiming that force and energy are the same thing.

Now, exactly how much heat is being produced by a two kilogram rock sitting on a table? I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess you are totally incapable of providing a calculation.

GunnerJ · 03-08-2002, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Quit trying to pigeonhole me as some sort of blissed out psudeoscientific nut. Your unwillingness to actually read what I'm posting and not put your own biases into it isn't my problem.

Actually, his reasoning for asking what your education in physics was may have had somehting to do with the fact that you confuse force with energy. Specifically, when you state that they are the same. From the sound of it, I've had just as much education in physics as you, and yet I don't make that mistake.

Edited to add: Damn! Crossposted after just two minutes!

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tronvillain · 03-08-2002, 11:01 AM

I'm going to repost this about the two killogram rock at a height of two metres:

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It is exerting a downwards force, specifically 19.6 N, and it has a constant potential energy, specifically 39.2 J. The question "possibly you could explain where all that energy GOES?" is meaningless since there is no energy going anywhere, hence my question "What energy?"

So again: What energy?

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03-08-2002, 09:57 AM	#51
tronvillain Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 5,658	Corwin, it may feel as if you're hitting your head against a brick wall, but unfortunately for you it's because you're wrong. You have no theory to support your assertions.

03-08-2002, 10:16 AM	#52
Corwin Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 4,369	I suppose you missed the 'energy can neither be created nor destroyed' part?

03-08-2002, 10:17 AM	#53
tronvillain Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 5,658	No, it just doesn't support your position.

03-08-2002, 10:19 AM	#54
tronvillain Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 5,658	This is starting to get pathetic. Where did you learn anything about physics?

03-08-2002, 10:27 AM	#55
Corwin Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 4,369	Let's see.... I did go to school, didn't you? And had several excellent physics teachers. Try doing a little research on atomic weapons for an idea of how pressure creates heat and concentrates energy. (specifically fusion bombs.... plutonium/uranium nukes are more a factor of the density created by the pressure... not so much with thermonukes.)

03-08-2002, 10:39 AM	#56
tronvillain Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 5,658	So, you made it through high school then? I find it amusing that you are completely unable to explain this magical theory of yours yet expect me to research it.

03-08-2002, 10:44 AM	#57
Corwin Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 4,369	What the hell is magical about it? What happens when you shine light on an object? Oh, that's right... IT HEATS UP. Energy changes from one form to another, in this case, from light to heat. In the case of what we've been talking about for days now, from kinetic force to heat. Heat is sort of the 'lowest common denominator' as far as energy is concerned. If you're going to 'lose' energy it will most likely be in the form of heat. (As in reflected light, electrical resistance, or friction.) Quit trying to pigeonhole me as some sort of blissed out psudeoscientific nut. Your unwillingness to actually read what I'm posting and not put your own biases into it isn't my problem.

03-08-2002, 10:53 AM	#58
tronvillain Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 5,658	You don't want to be pigeonholed as a blissed out pseudoscientific nut? Stop acting like one: stop claiming that force and energy are the same thing. Now, exactly how much heat is being produced by a two kilogram rock sitting on a table? I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess you are totally incapable of providing a calculation.

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