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Zar · 02-28-2003, 11:07 AM

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Originally posted by Danya
I am unable to get to the link...could be because I'm at work. Is there a text version somewhere?

You can get it at the White House but nothing beats seeing the video.

TollHouse · 03-02-2003, 03:55 PM

ROFLMAO!

Priceless!

Danya · 03-02-2003, 05:11 PM

I've tried from different links but the file is unsupported in my Windows Media...I really wanted to see it too.

kwigibo · 03-02-2003, 06:22 PM

download realplayer

DoubleDutchy · 03-03-2003, 04:10 AM

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Originally posted by leonarde
Previously posted:
I agree wholeheartedly. But with an added observation: that fact-----that nations can be and are regularly "bribed" at the UN Security Council and (presumably)other international conclaves-- is why this whole a multilateral-approach-is-always- better claim is a lot of hooey. Watching/reading about real multilateralism is like watching sausages being made: not a pretty sight. Which is why there's a lot to be said for unilateralism.

Cheers!

Don't get that. What makes you think that unilateral decisions are made in a more palatable way ?

slept2long · 03-03-2003, 06:38 AM

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Originally posted by leonarde
Which is why there's a lot to be said for unilateralism.

Cheers!

Like the fact that it's largely illegal.

Zar · 03-03-2003, 09:34 AM

Wow.

Because the United States might be bribing a few leaders of some nations to get its way, though it can't even seem to buy certain others that have a little self-respect, that means the process is bad, not the United States. No, we can't have anyone engaging in double-bad-wrong-think like that. Further, unlilateralism is thusly apt to be morally superior. Talk about a terminal case of sour grapes! Tell this all to Saddam, he'd love to hear it. You can bet he'd refuse to let anyone from the U.N. cross his borders, as well he ought to under conditions like that. Honestly, this is nearly as sweeping a denial as Ari Fleischer regularly dishes out.

I have another one. The democratic process is inherently morally bankrupt, and should really be abandoned, for it is a hopeless cause. This just goes to show that there is a lot to be said for having a monarchy.

slept2long · 03-05-2003, 06:02 PM

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Originally posted by Zar
Wow.

No, we can't have anyone engaging in double-bad-wrong-think like that. Further, unlilateralism is thusly apt to be morally superior.

italisizing by me.
Dammit ZAR your goin to room 101! It's doubleplus un"good" think. Why do you need the word bad when un-good will due? Your newspeak is faulty,do I have to report you to the ministry of, ah hell I can't keep satirizing......

Zar · 03-05-2003, 08:02 PM

slept2long,

It has been almost 10 years since I read 1984. I have indeed lost my touch for newspeak. Thanks for the correction.

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03-02-2003, 03:55 PM	#12
TollHouse Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 8,745	ROFLMAO! Priceless!

03-02-2003, 05:11 PM	#13
Danya Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: USA Posts: 638	I've tried from different links but the file is unsupported in my Windows Media...I really wanted to see it too.

03-02-2003, 06:22 PM	#14
kwigibo Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Gold Coast, QLD, Australia Posts: 5,814	download realplayer

03-03-2003, 09:34 AM	#17
Zar Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Chicago, IL USA Posts: 3,477	Wow. Because the United States might be bribing a few leaders of some nations to get its way, though it can't even seem to buy certain others that have a little self-respect, that means the process is bad, not the United States. No, we can't have anyone engaging in double-bad-wrong-think like that. Further, unlilateralism is thusly apt to be morally superior. Talk about a terminal case of sour grapes! Tell this all to Saddam, he'd love to hear it. You can bet he'd refuse to let anyone from the U.N. cross his borders, as well he ought to under conditions like that. Honestly, this is nearly as sweeping a denial as Ari Fleischer regularly dishes out. I have another one. The democratic process is inherently morally bankrupt, and should really be abandoned, for it is a hopeless cause. This just goes to show that there is a lot to be said for having a monarchy.

03-05-2003, 08:02 PM	#19
Zar Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Chicago, IL USA Posts: 3,477	slept2long, It has been almost 10 years since I read 1984. I have indeed lost my touch for newspeak. Thanks for the correction.

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