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Yes, I agree: avoid gurus. Gurus only tell you what to do and take your money.

Astral body: a duplicate body, a spiritual body. It, and its faculties, are veiled by the material body while the latter functions, hence the inability to perceive God and the astral realms (and no way to detect them scientifically, hence the failure of all theistic arguments). When the material body stops functioning, the astral body leaves it. It may return if the time has not yet come to die - that is called a Near-Death Experience (and much as I accept most of science, such as heliocentrism, evolution and relativity, I reject and will always reject naturalistic explanations for the NDE). The astral body, when it leaves the material body, meets the Light Being of Love - God. Then God plays a Life Review before it, where all sins and acts of righteousness are accounted for, and accordingly the soul goes to a level of heaven or hell (hell is not eternal; one gets out of there after repentance).

Darth Dane

Astral body: a duplicate body, a spiritual body. It, and its faculties, are veiled by the material body while the latter functions, hence the inability to perceive God and the astral realms (and no way to detect them scientifically, hence the failure of all theistic arguments).

I partly agree, Yogi's say that we have to cleanse our body, so we can receive the light, it is easier to do in our dreams(astral body) if you become concious(try if you awake in your dream, mantra's if you know them, can be usefull.)

The astral body, when it leaves the material body, meets the Light Being of Love - God. Then God plays a Life Review before it, where all sins and acts of righteousness are accounted for, and accordingly the soul goes to a level of heaven or hell (hell is not eternal; one gets out of there after repentance).

Yes, I agree partly. our lives flash before us, not only how we experienced our life from our own POV, but also teh POV and feeling from those whom you interacted with.

This helps support the notion that we shold Love our neighbour as we love ourselves, because we get to see the receiving end of our actions.

Could Hell be placed on earth, as the poor sections of Rio de Janeiro(sp?) and other poor places.




DD - Love Spliff

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Because God is in no need whatsoever, there is nothing you can do to serve Him directly. Therefore the only real way to serve God is to serve other people (and non-human animals).

Humanism is the only way to heaven.

Heaven and hell are astral planes. There is no one absolute "heaven" or one absolute "hell", only different degrees according to one's deeds during the material lifetime. If one has been unkind towards others all one's life long, then one's destination is a lower plane, a "hell plane". A deathbed acceptance of God's existence or Jesus' blood will not change a thing. One's theology does not determine one's destination after death.

The hellish parts of earth are all parts of the natural plane, where, as Richard Dawkins said, there is a reign of "blind, pitiless indifference". Improving conditions in those parts is our responsibility alone.

sweep

when you realise exactly how insignificant you are, how little you can trust, and how tenuous the reality we create for ourself is- then you fall, let go and start to think you are insane, pitting a projection of you against you. when this happens, know only that the universe Is much greater.

If god is perceived as great, if god is perceived as being overwhelmed by feelings, if god kicks down your door.... +p

hey its post 444. make those numbers from wire, bend em about a bit, turn them upside down, and you get 666.... oh no, what shall I do?

Darth Dane

I like your post emotional, the commandment fro Jesus does reallt take on another menaing when we open our eyes eh?

One's theology does not determine one's destination after death.

I tend to agree, our actions determine this. Heaven and Hell can also be physical!

113 His disciples said to him, "When will the kingdom come?"

"It will not come by watching for it. It will not be said, 'Look, here!' or 'Look, there!' Rather, the Father's kingdom is spread out upon the earth, and people don't see it Jesus- Gospel of Thomas

So Heaven and Hell can be here or what?




DD - Love Spliff

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The astral planes ARE here, only we are veiled from seeing them by our material bodies. The Kingdoms or Mansions of God are in the midst of us, but while we are in the material body we are not aware of them.

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(double post)

sweep

perhaps its only when we think we're so qualified to judge, and to bash or ignore that which makes us afraid, that bad begins.

there again, its just about anything thats smaller or outside our sphere of reality, that gets twatted

Darth Dane

The astral planes ARE here, only we are veiled from seeing them by our material bodies. The Kingdoms or Mansions of God are in the midst of us, but while we are in the material body we are not aware of them.

But we can raise our conciousness or awareness, and behold these things as well, as we live, just like those who see aura's and whatnot.

Have you studied Yoga?



DD - Love Spliff

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Yes, we can, but what's the big hurry? The time has not yet come. We all get to see, unrestricted, after we die. I don't know about you, but I have thus much patience.

Yeah, but it's too much like hard bodily exercise. I gave it up after two sessions. Besides, I don't like the idea of "being one with God". I believe God is separate from His creation ("between the creature and the Creator a great gulf is fixed" - J Gresham Machen) and it is not possible to merge with Him, it is possible only to perceive His light. I'm not a pantheist. I believe in both the transcendence and the immanence of God.