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beth · 07-16-2003, 06:05 AM

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Originally posted by Defiant Heretic
It depends on the illness. It's my opinion that disorders like Attention Deficit Disorder and possibly Asperger's Syndrome (I only know the basics about that, so I could be wrong.) were simply made up to make eccentricity a disease. Sometimes society just wants to medicate people who don't act like they do.

Then there are the people who hear voices that tell them to kill the aliens that are disguised as postal workers.

My daughter is ADHD and is non-medicated and drives me nuts. She has an exuberance for life but cannot keep still and is always destroying thing to see how they work and so on... Hers is real. I do not believe it was made up, she is not eccentric in the least. My daughter cannot help it. If she eats sugar, she is out of control and I look into her face and recognize that she cannot help the way she is. I don't think that most ADHD kids should be medicated, but I think it is important to know that a kid is not just bad, but has a real condition, it helps the parent to deal.

//riot of disorder:: · 07-16-2003, 02:57 PM

I have ADHD. It sucks hard that I have to be doped up on speed for the rest of my life.

catalyst · 07-16-2003, 07:25 PM

Disorder | Rating
Paranoid: Low
Schizoid: Very High
Schizotypal: Moderate
Antisocial: Moderate
Borderline: Low
Histrionic: Moderate
Narcissistic: High
Avoidant: Low
Dependent: Low
Obsessive-Compulsive: High

Fairly accurate in my case.

catalyst · 07-16-2003, 07:37 PM

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Am I the only person who thinks that medication is the last thing that should be used to treat mental illness?

In most cases I agree with you. And not just mental illness.

winstonjen · 07-16-2003, 08:45 PM

Here's mine:

Paranoid: High
Schizoid: High
Schizotypal: Moderate
Antisocial: Low
Borderline: Moderate
Histrionic: High
Narcissistic: Low
Avoidant: Very High
Dependent: High
Obsessive-Compulsive: Moderate

Bunny Lover · 07-17-2003, 11:09 PM

Hello,

Paranoid: Low
Schizoid: Low
Schizotypal: Low
Antisocial: Low
Borderline: Low
Histrionic: Low
Narcissistic: Low
Avoidant: Low
Dependent: Low
Obsessive-Compulsive: Low

Don't we just love to analyze ourselves?

HelenM · 07-18-2003, 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dubin
I got low on every disorder too, and I'm the person everyone always tells to shut up, sit down, and be like everybody else.

Then again, I came to the conclusion long ago that insanity is nothing more than having a different mental disorder than the majority.

Am I the only person who thinks that medication is the last thing that should be used to treat mental illness?

I think it's best to consider the particular illness.

Sometimes it's an emergency situation; sometimes a person has a track record of being able to manage their life until they go off meds.

It's one thing to take an online test. But when someone is trying to kill themselves or endangering the lives of others because they have brain chemical imbalance then I think it's hard to argue against trying meds which have proved helpful for other people with the same symptoms.

I don't know anyone who advocates only medication for treating mental illness, fwiw. But to refuse to try it, especially in an emergency/crisis situation, seems unwarranted, to me. Anyway, it's a temporary decision. It might have side effects but it's not an irreversible decision if it doesn't help.

Helen

alephnull · 07-18-2003, 09:25 AM

Paranoid: Moderate
Schizoid: Moderate
Schizotypal: Moderate
Antisocial: Moderate
Borderline: Low
Histrionic: Moderate
Narcissistic: High
Avoidant: High
Dependent: Low
Obsessive-Compulsive: High

Yep, I'm so self-centered that it borders on an obsession and drives me away from others. Life is good.

07-18-2003, 01:41 PM

Code:


 Disorder    | Rating
Paranoid     |  High
Schizoid     |  Moderate
Schizotypal  |  High
Antisocial   |  Low
Borderline   |  Very High
Histrionic   |  Moderate
Narcissistic |  Moderate
Avoidant     |  High
Dependent    |  Very High
Obsessive-
Compulsive   |  Moderate

I am so screwed up!

I suppose it says more about me that I went to the trouble of lining up the table of my disorders. :banghead:

I already knew I was dependent and borderline. Seriously, why do you think I keep saying I'm never going to return to II and I still come back?

[pathetic]You guys are my only friends and I don't even really know any of you[/pathetic]

Odd, the only thing I rated low on was anti-social. I've always thought that is exactly what I was. On the one hand, I hate people, on the other I'm dependent and afraid of being alone.
:boohoo:

MollyMac · 07-18-2003, 02:00 PM

posted by HelenM I think it's best to consider the particular illness.

I think it's best to consider the particular illness.

Sometimes it's an emergency situation; sometimes a person has a track record of being able to manage their life until they go off meds.

It's one thing to take an online test. But when someone is trying to kill themselves or endangering the lives of others because they have brain chemical imbalance then I think it's hard to argue against trying meds which have proved helpful for other people with the same symptoms.

I don't know anyone who advocates only medication for treating mental illness, fwiw. But to refuse to try it, especially in an emergency/crisis situation, seems unwarranted, to me. Anyway, it's a temporary decision. It might have side effects but it's not an irreversible decision if it doesn't help.

Helen

I totally agree Helen. I believe in my heart of hearts that I owe my life to the fact that I sought help in time and the help that helped was medication. Psychoytherapy just screwed me up and made me hate myself even more.

07-18-2003, 01:41 PM	#59
HeatherD Guest Posts: n/a	Code: Disorder \| Rating Paranoid \| High Schizoid \| Moderate Schizotypal \| High Antisocial \| Low Borderline \| Very High Histrionic \| Moderate Narcissistic \| Moderate Avoidant \| High Dependent \| Very High Obsessive- Compulsive \| Moderate I am so screwed up! I suppose it says more about me that I went to the trouble of lining up the table of my disorders. :banghead: I already knew I was dependent and borderline. Seriously, why do you think I keep saying I'm never going to return to II and I still come back? [pathetic]You guys are my only friends and I don't even really know any of you[/pathetic] Odd, the only thing I rated low on was anti-social. I've always thought that is exactly what I was. On the one hand, I hate people, on the other I'm dependent and afraid of being alone. :boohoo:

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07-16-2003, 02:57 PM	#52
//riot of disorder:: Regular Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: California Posts: 184	I have ADHD. It sucks hard that I have to be doped up on speed for the rest of my life.

07-16-2003, 07:25 PM	#53
catalyst Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 6,158	Disorder \| Rating Paranoid: Low Schizoid: Very High Schizotypal: Moderate Antisocial: Moderate Borderline: Low Histrionic: Moderate Narcissistic: High Avoidant: Low Dependent: Low Obsessive-Compulsive: High Fairly accurate in my case.

07-16-2003, 08:45 PM	#55
winstonjen Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 3,425	Here's mine: Paranoid: High Schizoid: High Schizotypal: Moderate Antisocial: Low Borderline: Moderate Histrionic: High Narcissistic: Low Avoidant: Very High Dependent: High Obsessive-Compulsive: Moderate

07-17-2003, 11:09 PM	#56
Bunny Lover Regular Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 146	Hello, Paranoid: Low Schizoid: Low Schizotypal: Low Antisocial: Low Borderline: Low Histrionic: Low Narcissistic: Low Avoidant: Low Dependent: Low Obsessive-Compulsive: Low Don't we just love to analyze ourselves?

07-18-2003, 09:25 AM	#58
alephnull Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ithaca Posts: 88	Paranoid: Moderate Schizoid: Moderate Schizotypal: Moderate Antisocial: Moderate Borderline: Low Histrionic: Moderate Narcissistic: High Avoidant: High Dependent: Low Obsessive-Compulsive: High Yep, I'm so self-centered that it borders on an obsession and drives me away from others. Life is good.

07-18-2003, 02:00 PM	#60
MollyMac Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: London, England Posts: 2,125	posted by HelenM I think it's best to consider the particular illness. I think it's best to consider the particular illness. Sometimes it's an emergency situation; sometimes a person has a track record of being able to manage their life until they go off meds. It's one thing to take an online test. But when someone is trying to kill themselves or endangering the lives of others because they have brain chemical imbalance then I think it's hard to argue against trying meds which have proved helpful for other people with the same symptoms. I don't know anyone who advocates only medication for treating mental illness, fwiw. But to refuse to try it, especially in an emergency/crisis situation, seems unwarranted, to me. Anyway, it's a temporary decision. It might have side effects but it's not an irreversible decision if it doesn't help. Helen I totally agree Helen. I believe in my heart of hearts that I owe my life to the fact that I sought help in time and the help that helped was medication. Psychoytherapy just screwed me up and made me hate myself even more.

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