Gnomelord

I wasn't making an argument for creationism, I was asking a question regarding why it is such a hot topic and offering up a possible cause with regard to fundamental rules of debate.

Which was simply that creationists have a standing chance because they can assault an argument for evolution as such would take a longer time to manifest properly.

RufusAtticus

Yes, E/C is rather harsh. But scienific review is in general. If you do not wish to post, I recommend that you simply lurk for a while to get the feel of the place.

Oh yeah, welcome to IIDB.

keyser_soze

Seconded, spend some time getting an idea of the process, and a feel for the personalities, and DEFINATELY get used to being extremely precise in what you are asking/positing. I wouldn't say it's a shark tank, but you had better be decent swimmer before diving in, as the undertow is a bitch.

Doubting Didymus

'creating an argument for a natural phenomena'...? Do you mean to say 'it is impossible to prove conclusively that any given phenomena is wholly natural? If so, you're probably right. I don't think anything can ever be 'proven 100%', unless you're dealing with absolute statements, like in maths or logic. However, like in a courtroom, there is such a thing as 'beyond reasonable doubt'. In science, our standards are far far far stricter for this standard of proof than in any legal system, and evolution very much fits the bill. It would be perverse to deny it, even though 100% proof is impossible.

I'm afraid I don't understand that.

Oh, pay it no mind. Its just that there are a lot of us here, this being one of the webs best outwardly 'pro' evolution sites, and we've heard suggestions like yours before. Keep in mind that some of us, myself included, are devoting their career and their working future to the study of this subject, and are not just here to contend with creationists, (in fact I for one prefer to avoid it when I have a good excuse). I'm here both to discuss and to learn about biological evolution, the underpinning theory of the whole of biology, and I have no doubt that you too could learn a few things if you wanted to stick about.

Gnomelord

What I had meant was that anything that must be proven cannot be done so promptly and therefore even thought finding evidence may be the starkest and simplest thing in the world, simply shifting through all that to find the most convincing points becomes all the more difficult.

Doubting Didymus

Ah, but thats exactly what we do here. Its also a job tackled admirably by the talkorigins archive, as well as a small troop of other self sacraficing individual netizens. Its not easy to do, but neither can it be ignored. At stake are the very foundations of the education of mankind.

Jayjay

Apart from the responses so far, I'd like to point out another possible reason why creation/evolution "bickering" as you put it is so commonplace: YEC is by far the dumbest theological construct in Christianity. It takes a little bit knowledge and dedication to properly address apologetics that rely on philosophy, history, archeology, biblical errancies and so on, but even a moderately smart children can point out how stupid some of the creationist claims are.