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Old 01-23-2003, 05:16 PM   #21
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How is it that, no matter what, these fallacies continue to be propagated?

Amazing...and sad.
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If you input this to a knitting machine you get a jumper that says 'Arsenal - Double Winners 2002/2003'. I always suspected it was more than establishment bias with them lucky bastards.

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... and never asked them if they even wanted it?

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Funny, you'd think that on a planet which is 3/4 covered by water that distruction by fire would be a more fitting mythological theme.
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1 - there is a currently viable theory on the spawning of universes through black holes. This already gives a more credible option than creation. Besides, the misconception is that there was "nothing". An alternate point of view says there was infinite mass, in an infinitely small space. Well,that just asks for an explosion. Whatever there was before is not really that relevant, time being a consequence of said explosion.
How??? I've never heard of this.
Still, you've got to give him credit for style.

I actually find the each-black-hole-spawns-new-universe theory fairly appealing. Mostly on the following:

Universe: started with a point of infinite (more or less ) density, currently can't communicate with anything outside the universe.

Black hole: point of infinite density, can't communicate between inside and outside.

Negatives: If our universe is a black hole, what is happening to the stuff falling into it? Does this provide the energy of expansion or something?

Conservation of mass and maybe the second law of thermodynamics have been violated. Then again, these are laws made to be broken when it comes to the origin of the friggin' universe.


The other theory I like is that of a flat universe where all of the matter, energy, etc. add up to (approximately) zero. Thus, to a first approximation nothing ever was created, the universe is just a particularly extravagent and unusual form of nothing.

I think I'll go to bed now, otherwise I might have to start slamming my head against the wall...
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Funny, you'd think that on a planet which is 3/4 covered by water that distruction by fire would be a more fitting mythological theme.
You'd thinkso, wouldn't you? However, remember that the folks that wrote Genesis were sitting in some of the most worthless real estate on the planet - the middle of a bloody desert and arid mountains that included such tourist hotspots as the Dead Sea. They could only DREAM of that much water... I bet they figured fire and heat was a normal way to bite the dust - only gawd could produce enough water to actually drown in...
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