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HelenM · 05-18-2003, 03:08 AM

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Originally posted by Pat Kelly
Well Helen if you are unable to rationally move beyond the idea nudity is a bad thing which should be hidden how could you ever expect yourself to develop rational views of sex?

I don't ever expect you to think my ideas of sex are rational.

All I said was that I don't care for the nude photos of children on your site. You extrapolated way beyond that for no apparent reason.

I know people who were sexually exploited as children. What you say - that their only reason for not thinking it was a wonderful thing is because society told them it was not - is absolute rubbish. How could you ever expect me to believe you in the face of all the evidence contradicting your ideas? I do pay attention to the evidence. I don't spend my time trying to explain it away or deny it.

Helen

yguy · 05-18-2003, 10:58 AM

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Originally posted by Philosoft
I may have misread. Was your post about AquaVita's anger serious or sarcastic?

Both. I was anticipating that Kelly would try somehow to cast those who find his views hideous as bigots. It's a common tactic among "change agents".

xeren · 05-18-2003, 11:10 AM

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Originally posted by Pat Kelly
Most of the real damage by far occurs long after the act and ironically is inflicted by the very ones claiming to protect children from harm.

And do you have any proof of this?

Mary · 05-18-2003, 03:31 PM

I love sex and am prepared to use both men and women to fulfill my desires.

And why shouldn't I ! I am under no obligation to anyone and am under no law.

Ooohhh I just love to feel the warmth and hardness of a mans body .

keyser_soze · 05-19-2003, 09:25 AM

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Originally posted by yguy
How very handsome. Such a broad-minded and tolerant soul as yourself can certainly appreciate it, then, when I affirm that while I don't advocate burning apologists for pedophilia like yourself at the stake, I do not condemn people who harbor such desires.

Thank you....

I think we are in the majority on this one..

Philosoft · 05-19-2003, 11:50 AM

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Originally posted by yguy
Both. I was anticipating that Kelly would try somehow to cast those who find his views hideous as bigots. It's a common tactic among "change agents".

My mistake, then. Consider my criticism of your post voided.

Debbie T · 05-19-2003, 11:51 AM

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Originally posted by Pat Kelly
Not that it is any of your business or in any way relevant to the discussion; I am married with two children. I am also not a member of nambla though I certainly agree with such groups that there is a witch hunt underway for those sexually attracted to children. And you?

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Being attracted to children is not against the law, having sex with children is.

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Will the moderator (since you didn't leave your name) please pm me and tell me why those questions were deleted?

The Other Michael · 05-19-2003, 11:59 AM

Hello folks,

I'm having to delete a number of comments that are directed personally at another user, rather than at that user's arguments.

If things don't get back to a more even keel, I've got no qualms about scuttling this thread and sending it to Davy Jones' locker.

Michael
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hezekiah jones · 05-19-2003, 12:52 PM

Originally posted by Pat Kelly
I just finished writing this article and had a lot of fun doing it.

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hezekiah jones · 05-19-2003, 01:00 PM

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LOL! Oh well.

05-19-2003, 11:59 AM	#68
The Other Michael Honorary Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: In the fog of San Francisco Posts: 12,631	This is a public service announcement Hello folks, I'm having to delete a number of comments that are directed personally at another user, rather than at that user's arguments. If things don't get back to a more even keel, I've got no qualms about scuttling this thread and sending it to Davy Jones' locker. Michael MF&P Moderator (Maximus)

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05-18-2003, 03:31 PM	#64
Mary Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: England Posts: 8	I love sex and am prepared to use both men and women to fulfill my desires. And why shouldn't I ! I am under no obligation to anyone and am under no law. Ooohhh I just love to feel the warmth and hardness of a mans body .

05-19-2003, 12:52 PM	#69
hezekiah jones Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: WI Posts: 4,357	Originally posted by Pat Kelly I just finished writing this article and had a lot of fun doing it. <deleted by moderator>

05-19-2003, 01:00 PM	#70
hezekiah jones Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: WI Posts: 4,357	<deleted by moderator> LOL! Oh well.

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