Evangelion

To the best of my knowledge, there isn't - and that's the whole point.

From Nizkor again:

• The Refusal to Cross-Link the Pamphlet
  
  Nizkor believes that truth has no need for secrecy. We present the material of the Holocaust-deniers unaltered and completely openly, with links back to their web sites so that the reader may examine exactly what they say. And if and when they have a response to our work, we will of course cross-link to it, so that the reader may examine that response.
  
  On January 5, 1996, Ernst Zündel agreed to put a cross-link from his 66 Q & A page to this site, and he did so. Zündel also promised that he would "reply to Nizkor's rebuttal with "a rebuttal of our own as soon as time permits."
  
  Nizkor has spent a great deal of effort trying to convince Mr. Zündel that cross-linking is worthwhile, and he has spent a great deal of effort giving reasons why he might prefer not to participate. We are glad that he ended up making what we feel is the right choice regardless. You may read about this on our Zündelsite correspondence page.
  
  Greg Raven, though asked many times to establish links between our sites, has responded to us only once, saying that it would be "illogical" to cross-link to every site that links to him. Note that he apparently thinks it is logical to link his home page to other Holocaust-denial sites like Zündel's and Bradley Smith's.
  
  And speaking of Bradley Smith: since he is the head of the Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust, we would hope that he would assist us in our efforts to "debate" these issues, by encouraging Mr. Raven to cross-link his 66 Q&A page to our response. His goals and ours happen to coincide in this case -- "open debate" -- so we look forward to his help. We have made contact with him on this matter, but have not heard back yet.
  
  Source.

Cowardice - dishonesty's favourite companion.

RED DAVE

I notice the nazis have fled the thread. Or maybe they just went to bed.

RED DAVE

(rhyming unintentional)

Evangelion

The island to which you refer is called "Tasmania." It is the seventh state of Australia. Yes, the Tasmanian aborigines were indeed wiped out. Not a single one remains.

Consequently, the Tasmanian government is now the only state government in Australia which has not enacted any native title legislation.

Evangelion

You're welcome.

It's been a pleasure.

Loren Pechtel

Actually, this is correct but you won't like the reason:

Wag the Dog.

Enai

Well, as a german with as aryan an aryan certificate as you could buy for money during Hitler's reign, I wager a guess:

Money. Tens of thousands of jewish businesses were "aryanized" during Hitler's "purification" attempts, providing germans with an income and quite often considerable wealth. Also, the possessions of those who left germany or were deported were sold for bargain prices, providing the germans who gained from that with a hefty profit.

Blechh. Going to barf now.
Enai

Kuu

I think you should get your facts straight. The Tasmanian aboriginals were not wiped out. It came extremely close to being a complete genocide but not quite.

It is often claimed that Truganini was the last Tasmanian aboriginal. Not so. She might have been the last full-blooded Tasmanian Aboriginal but even that might not be so as that honour seems to go Fanny Cochrane Smith who lived to 1905.

Fanny was born at Wybalenna on Flinders Island (after the round up of the aboriginals in the early 1830s). She eventually moved to the Tasmanian mainland and she married William Smith, an Englishman, in 1854. There had 11 children and there are many descendants around to day.

Another full-blooded aboriginal woman, Dolly Dalrymple also married a white man and has many descendants.

These descendants consider themselves to be aboriginals including my aunt who is a descendant of Fanny Cochrane Smith.

There is also other people claiming to be Tasmanian aboriginals. During the round-up some women living in the logging camps of the Huon were hidden by their white husbands. Later these women often claimed to be South Sea Islanders and told their children to say the same. They were scared of being rounded up (which is understandable). I believe that my great, great grandmother was one of these women but we have yet not proved it beyond doubt.

An aboriginal doesn't have to be a full-caste to be aboriginal.

Also Tasmania does have a Native Title Act

Tasmanian Native Title Act

Born Free

Red Dave

There is no need to apologise for having your post moderated, not to me at least. I have the luxury of not having lost anyone to the holocaust, you have. There is a huge difference. Whilst I have studied it in great depth all my life and at times wept I am still a mere observer disgusted though I am, it has not affected me personally or my family.

It is a very emotional subject and I think everyone can forgive you for feeling intense anger.

As for trying to get him to open his mind??? Worth every second.

As a young girl I happened to see a documentary one night about the holocaust, I was so horrified I could hardly sleep. Since then I have studied the subject, people think I am weird and morbid sometimes. Maybe I am but I think I've been trying to get my head around it and still to this day I can't. Each time I read a survivor story it's like the first time I've heard about the holocaust. It hits you afresh. To me those books were written to be read and I just want to read them so that another survivor has had their story known to someone.

I want to go to Poland to visit the camps. People ask me why and all I have for an answer is I want to pay my respects.

People have said but it had nothing to do with you, you weren't even born when it happened, you didn't even have family that was lost so why would you want to pay your respects???

I just want to tell them all (although I know they can't hear me) that I am sorry that this happened to them, I have always thought about them and always will and will not forget them. I want to lay some flowers and light a candle. No prayers just my thoughts. And it is for all of the victims of all nationalities and creeds.

Sounds weird I know but I just have this need to do it one day.

Now this is emotive language but it's the way a lot of people feel so the revisionists and deniers had better get used to the fact and the fact that there are non jews non gypsys non homosexuals etc always willing to smite their claptrap on behalf of those that can't because they are dead.

RED DAVE

To alli:

Let me share a family story with you and the rest of the board.

My father has a cousin, a second cousin I think, named Simon. He is a kind, gentle man. He is married to a woman named Pearl, a beautiful woman. They are both in their seventies now. They have two children, grandchildren etc.

Back in Hungary, during the War, Simon and Pearl were engaged to be married. They and their families were taken to the death camps.

Pearl survived. She returned to the town where she came from. She was one of the few survivors. Another was an older man, a friend of her father's whom she had known all her life, who had lost his entire family. He asked her to marry him. He had some money and suggested that they emigrate to America.

She agreed to marry him. But, before they married, Simon, her fiance, returned to the town. He, too, had survived the camps.

They married and came here. I remember them well as a child, and I remember their daughters. My parents are still in touch with them. They are retired in Florida.

As a writer of fiction, I wouldn't dare to contrive a story like that.

RED DAVE

Born Free

Thanks for sharing that Dave, it was so nice that they found each other again. I hate to think of all the loving couples seperated forever. I hope they both managed to find some peace in their lives.