Boro Nut

Funny you should ask that, but in England the story is somewhat different. It's quite striking how the story differs from culture to culture. Over here we are told it wasn't a dove at all, it was a parrot.

And it didn't find an olive branch, it was a coconut frond.

And it wasn't an ark they were in, it was a giant pink sea snail.

And it didn't come to rest on mount arrarrat, it bumped into a floating volcanic island.

And it wasn't called Genesis, it was Dr Doolittle.

Boro Nut

Oolon Colluphid

Some points for you to ponder.

Don’t you all realise that the uplifting of the mountains happened after the flood? The depth of the water is therefore less of an issue

Evilutionists also reckon that olives don’t live at such high altitudes, but if the mountains grew after the flood, olives wouldn’t have needed to be so high.

Also note that much of the water came from rain from the Vapor Canopy, which being fresh water would have diluted the sea water to olive-survival levels of salinity.

If you will only believe, all these things are possible.

TTFN, Godsterrier

Talulah

Hello All,

Thanks for all the info. I guess I will have to weigh it seriously now and try to come to a decision as to whether I really believe that God can do things like put all the species of animals on earth on one boat, or if it really can rain continuously for 40 days and 40 nights or other multitudes of things

Seriously though, I find this quote to be very interesting. One of the things that amuses me the most is the abundance of stories that are nearly identical to Christian ones.

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Jayhawker Soule

The syncretic quality of Christianity is, indeed, marvelous to behold.

diana

Also note that much of the water came from rain from the Vapor Canopy, which being fresh water would have diluted the sea water to olive-survival levels of salinity.

But what about the "fountains of the deep"?

So if the mountains didn't rise until after the flood, then I guess it only makes sense that salt water wasn't heavier than fresh until after the flood, either. Or maybe God was sitting up there with a big stirring spoon with which to roil the waters adequately to "dilute" all that ocean water to levels of brackishness acceptable to olive trees....

d

Jayhawker Soule

All things are possible.

It still doesn't explain how Noah trained that damn dove ...

diana

You silly person. God trained the dove.

d

nescio

This is only semi-related to the topic at hand, but my 7th & 8th grade Sunday school teacher explained to the class that the reason the raven didn't come back was that ravens are scavengers and that it probably was too busy pecking at floating corpses to return to the ark.

Anyone else ever hear that?

Tristan Scott

Talulah,

That should be easy enough to explain if you look at it in the perspective of the person(s) who wrote Genesis. At that time the Babylonian myths and gods were still being used by many of the inhabitants of the area. So the writer basically was saying that this wasn't really the Babylonian god Ea, he has been confused with the Hebrew god El, or Elohim. The Garden of Eden and Tower of Babel sequences are strongly influenced by the Sumerian epic When on High (The Enuma Elish). These were the myths of the people that Genesis was written for, which accounts for the similarity.

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Talulah

I would imagine that Noah had some extra time on his hands to train the dove to fly back and forth in that mighty large ark. He probably trained it by telling it to go fetch flees off the camel's backs. Probably dove-training was covered in the manual that God gave Noah titled "Ark building and sustaining life therein, for the righteous only."


Corpses hmmmm. That is an interesting scenerio. Of course that is not mentioned in the scriptures so that is just speculation and not to be considered a matter of salvation to believe.

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