beyelzu

the reason seebs is more rational than radorth

1. if seebs contradicts himself, he says hey i was wrong oops.

2. radorth says,"you evil persecuting atheists i never said that. and ignores the posts that actually quote what he said.


i am not persecuting you radorth. you just keep lying.

Daggah

The thread in question

You were saying?

What does this have to do with your not-so-mysterious silence in the evolution discussion in question? Answer: nothing. It's just another of your red herrings.

Hah! Now I'm a 'bad person.' Why? Because I won't let Radorth get away with pulling his typical Radorthian antics.

Rad, you post, on average, 8 posts a day. But your last post in the thread in question was three days ago...and you've been posting actively in other discussions since then. And your last post in that thread certainly wasn't a 'final post in this discussion from me' post.

So why the silence?

[cue Radorth bitching and moaning about how he's persected in 3...2...1...]

Buffman

Member Radorth

But at least they admitted Darwin was wrong.

Does that mean that if "you" admit that you wrong about something that everything else you post can be discounted as erroneous also...which the majority of folks eventually seem to be deciding is the case after attempting to have a rational discussion with you?

If I wasn't called to so many gratuitous witch-hunts and smear campaigns I could respond.

Muhahahahahah! I love reading your stuff. I keep complimenting you on what a wonderful "jokester" you are and you never fail to live up to my expectations of you.

Long ago I suggested that you were doing great harm to your chosen religious faith dogma and to please continue doing what only you seem to be able to do so well. I wish to thank you for continuing along the path you have chosen in these forums...exposing the negative face of Christianity. Good for you. Please continue! I love to laugh...and you keep me in stitches.

Gurdur

Please explain The Book Of Job ?

Family Man

Um, Radoth, most people on this forum don't think God exists at all. Which is why True Christians can cease to be True Christians -- there is no god to stop them.

Interesting assumption, though.

[Gratuitous Insult]And you wonder why so many people snicker at you[/Gratutious Insult -- after all, a post addressing Radoth wouldn't be complete without one!]

Giorgia

Excuse a "newbie" for asking what is probably a dumb question: Rad, there are so very many boards frequented by people of various theist beliefs, why are you hanging out here anyway?

Bree

I am Jack's mild surprise.

Last time I checked, Christian's do NOT believe that we are ALL valuable and precious. The only people who are valuable and precious are those who are saved by the grace of Christ. All the rest of us are just plain ol' dust waiting to be wormchow and, eventually, fuel for the fires of hell. The only people who I've found the believe in the "valuable and precious" state of a human being are those Norman Vincent Peale positive-thinker types.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot: don't you think that loving "self (and other's) for God's sake" is kind of, well, sick and wrong? My mother, a devout Christian, always taught me that I should never do something because someone told me I should - if your heart isn't in it, it's not worth doing. If I were God, I'd be pissed off that you were opening your heart to someone simply because I said so! I'd want to know why you, as a True Christian, didn't just do it because it was the right thing to do, instead of "God said so."

Shadownought

Christian ideas of self-worth are very strange to me. On the one hand, we're all filthy sinners that deserve nothing better than eternal punishment, and are saved from it only by the infinite grace that we don't deserve. On the other hand, we are also "special" creatures who were created in God's image and are his ultimate creative triumph (and depending who you talk to, we obviously didn't come from no stupid, dirty ape!).

Radorth

He does not say in general that we filthy rags. He says "all our righteousness is as filthy rags."

It's as simple as loving the sinner and hating the sin, to me. I don't know why people would find that hard to grasp. Why should a loving, just God do any different? Is it that the world measures a person's value based solely on what they contribute? God hands out rewards based on works I suppose, but he hands out salvation for free because we have intrinsic worth.

That is why I don't call people names. It is like saying "You personally are worthless." I don't believe that at all because Jesus died for each of us, and made a way to save every person, no matter how bad they are or think they are. Unfortunately many of the secular "humanists" here don't think that way, and really have no good reason to think that way.

I do.

Rad

Bree

Can you explain "love the sinner, hate the sin" a litte more clearly, please? As a filthy, tricksey homosexual, I hear that one a lot - but no one seems to have a good grasp as to what it actually means, and how Christians are supposed to handle the situation.