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The Cromwell Institute · 06-10-2003, 11:48 PM

I have noticed something about the Matrix Reloaded that nobody else I know has, and I can't for the life of me decipher its meaning.

When Neo visits the Oracle, she gives him candy [and eats one herself]. This candy is visually identical to Morpheus's red pill in the original Matrix movie. It is also interesting to note that although Neo accepts the candy, he does not eat it. Also, the oracle says "I love candy".

What the hell does this all mean? It can't be pure coincidence.

Jeremy Pallant · 06-11-2003, 12:50 AM

Or maybe that's what you're supposed to think.

Evil Milkman · 06-11-2003, 01:26 AM

Great observation!

Only, I don't have an explain, either. Anyone?

Huginn · 06-11-2003, 01:58 AM

I think it shows that Neo has his doubts about the Oracle.

Thesouphead · 06-11-2003, 07:12 AM

I think it is just an advert for Skittles or M&Ms.

scarmig · 06-11-2003, 07:29 AM

It could tie back to the first film and show that the Oracle itself is not seeing the truth of things.

And Neo not eating his shows his mistrust, leading up to his revelation at the end of the flick.

Which begs the question:

How many blue pills does a guy have to swallow to get out of this shithole?

Deacon · 06-11-2003, 08:43 AM

Maybe Neo takes it later on in the sequel.

Then again maybe it's just a subtle cue to go to the refreshment stand.

Grumpy · 06-11-2003, 01:07 PM

Try to realize, there is no pill.

mikester · 06-11-2003, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Grumpy
Try to realize, there is no pill.

I was waiting for someone to say that.

i dont think it had a meaning, i think it was just a kind of nostalgic coincidence meant to create discussions like these.

Gnomelord · 06-12-2003, 12:12 AM

Neo accepted the candy because it shows the futility of his own decisions towards a desired end.
He did not eat it as it reflected his choice at the end of the movie. My guess is that most Neos would have accepted and eaten the candy.

Maybe the Oracle wanted it to end just so much as Neo had, so she provided the test.

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The Cromwell Institute Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Australia Posts: 766	The Red Pill I have noticed something about the Matrix Reloaded that nobody else I know has, and I can't for the life of me decipher its meaning. When Neo visits the Oracle, she gives him candy [and eats one herself]. This candy is visually identical to Morpheus's red pill in the original Matrix movie. It is also interesting to note that although Neo accepts the candy, he does not eat it. Also, the oracle says "I love candy". What the hell does this all mean? It can't be pure coincidence.

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06-11-2003, 12:50 AM	#2
Jeremy Pallant Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tucson, Arizona, USA Posts: 1,242	Or maybe that's what you're supposed to think.

06-11-2003, 01:26 AM	#3
Evil Milkman Regular Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 499	Great observation! Only, I don't have an explain, either. Anyone?

06-11-2003, 01:58 AM	#4
Huginn Veteran Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Lincoln, England Posts: 1,499	I think it shows that Neo has his doubts about the Oracle.

06-11-2003, 07:12 AM	#5
Thesouphead Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Atlanta Posts: 717	I think it is just an advert for Skittles or M&Ms.

06-11-2003, 07:29 AM	#6
scarmig Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Somewhere Posts: 689	It could tie back to the first film and show that the Oracle itself is not seeing the truth of things. And Neo not eating his shows his mistrust, leading up to his revelation at the end of the flick. Which begs the question: How many blue pills does a guy have to swallow to get out of this shithole?

06-11-2003, 08:43 AM	#7
Deacon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 620	Maybe Neo takes it later on in the sequel. Then again maybe it's just a subtle cue to go to the refreshment stand.

06-11-2003, 01:07 PM	#8
Grumpy Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Alaska, USA Posts: 1,535	Try to realize, there is no pill.

06-12-2003, 12:12 AM	#10
Gnomelord Regular Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 127	Neo accepted the candy because it shows the futility of his own decisions towards a desired end. He did not eat it as it reflected his choice at the end of the movie. My guess is that most Neos would have accepted and eaten the candy. Maybe the Oracle wanted it to end just so much as Neo had, so she provided the test.

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