phlebas

I'm rusty on my D&D attributes. Perhaps what you're lacking is WISDOM.

And I'm sick of the whining about how you can never get what you want. At your age, you have no idea what you want.

Since the only interest you've mentioned is introversion, I think you're being self-defeating. Surely you're intelligent enough to know a contradiction when you see one.

I think you're confusing strawmen with sarcasm.

What have you done to put yourself in a position to meet your "ideal partner"?

You have ignored most every question people have asked you on this thread. For someone so introverted, you are remarkably uninterested in soul-searching. But I'll give you one more opportunity before I write you off as someone who tried and failed to get pity, but is now settling for attention:

<i>Why do you think your current circumstances will continue for your whole life, despite the testimony of everyone else here who has lived through what you're feeling now?</i>

Dark Cobra

I know what I want in a romantic relationship, and you can't frickin' tell me otherwise-- YOU aren't qualified to do so. Don't tell me my age means I can't know what I want-- that's a stupid saying and has no relevence to the truth.

Since I'm 16, I guess I don't know what kind of pop I want right now, eh? Or what I want to eat? Don't be foolish...

No, I am not confusing strawman with sarcasm. How silly for you to think that.

My interests does not include of being an introvert-- that's my personality.

To my knowledge, the only female atheists I have met were those who would classify themselves as "punks", and they were of below-average intelligence.

I haven't seen anything otherwise-- the only female atheists I ever hear about are "punks". If I don't see otherwise, what am I supposed to think? I'm not going to take teh testimony of people out to prove me wrong over the internet more seriously than my own constant observations.

Stiletto One

Speaking as a 17-year-old, I'm actually inclined to agree.

At our age, we haven't experienced enough of that thing called 'Life' to really know what we want in the important things in life.

And if you get enough of the kind of soda you want (I never picked up the habit of calling it 'pop' when I was in NYC), you'd stop wanting it. Ditto food, or any other consumable that has any degree of savor to it. Air, although a consumable, has no savor to it, unless it smells really good�which means there's a lot of particulate in it which will subsequently saturate your nasal cavity and thus keep your scent receptors from registering the smell within about an hour�or really bad (ditto). I know of no one who has honestly managed to kick the oxygen (or water) habit.

Quit being such an arrogant teenager (says the arrogant teenager? Whatever), and deal with it. When you get your head out of your ass, maybe you'll notice that there actually are worthwhile girls around you. OR, after you start not simply dismissing everyone with any degree of physical attractiveness and fashionability and social acumen as "pop culture trash", you'll notice "oh wait, these people really are idiots" and you won't feel so bad (Teen Angst, meet Dark Cobra. Dark Cobra, meet Teen Angst) about not liking any of them.

Double-edged sword, friend, and it doesn't have to just cut your way.

By the way, I know plenty of female atheists who aren't 'punks' at all, although a few of them dress that way. Conversely, I know plenty of 'punk' female atheists who dress like absolutely normal (I know, oxymoron, but it's the best word) people. Regardless, quit throwing blanket descriptors around and try looking at people as, like, PEOPLE. Not just nouns.

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Hey, fun in the sun for the kids! Let's go kill off some verbs! w00t!
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Dark Cobra

Important is subjective, although you probably didn't realize that, and it differs from person to person.

Honestly, do you think my desires are going to change that much? If anything, they'll just get more specific.

What does getting tired of a certain food or soft drink have to do with anything???

I sit around and observe people when I have nothing to do. I do not like what I see-- "that, like, oh my gawd, he is, like, so hot"! way of talking, the same types of clothes, same interest in music... they are all the same with slight variations.

Nouns are things attributable to people. If you were intelligent, you would know that.

I have experienced enough in life to "know" what I want in regards to a romantic relationship. It's silly and meaningless to question otherwise. What I want very well can change, but it can change during the course of my entire life so there is no true "more informed" decision in regard to this.

Honestly, do you think I will ever want to go out with a christian, an irrational atheist, a wiccan...? If you think that's likely, you're probably an idiot! No, if anything my desires will get more specific and it will be even less likely to find someone to "fall in love" with.

Hey, notice that many, if not the majority, of males look for a female with certain physical attributes? I do NO such thing... besides the fact that I must find them attractive (if you fault me for this you are an idiot). I'm on the bare minimum here: Female, atheist, intelligent, rational, skeptic, a personality I am attractive to, and physically attractive (in my view). I am turned off by "punk" personalities, people so nice they are patronizing, the "preppy" types.

You don't like the fact that I use such statements to dismiss a group of people? Well, I only use such statements IF THEY ARE APPLICABLE. Now, I won't dismiss them as a punk if their "punkishness" is not a noticeable turnoff, now, would I?

I'm not trying to make excuses. I simply have no one to be attracted-- at least not just physically (plain lust).

phlebas

Well, I said I'd give you one more chance to answer a question, and you came back with the arrogance and snottiness we've seen since the beginning of this thread.

Fair enough. Good luck. I hope you'll someday realize how silly you're being right now.

James Hamlin

Maybe if you to stopped being shallow yourself and got to know some of these people you would realize that they are different and that some are intelligent. You'd be surprised. I know I was.

Of course, you have. How many romantic relationships have you been in, BTW? Of course, having some experience in this area would just be silly and meaningless with regards to this, wouldn't it?

I don't think it's at all likely, (so, thank the IPU that I'm not an idiot by your sensible standards) but not because it's actually a stupid thing to do. You don't have to marry these girls. It will just help you gain...experience.

See, that's the attitude we're talking about. Try respecting others' opinions a little more, even if they disagree with yours. I assume you mean physically attractive. How is that different from the other males?

FYI, most people are turned off by "hostile, arrogant, pompous types".

OK, so let's say you meet the girl you're looking for? How the hell do you plan to woo her without any experience? Hell, how are you going to distinguish her from the rest? Rationality isn't really an outward attribute.

My advice: try getting to know people, even if at first glance they seem like "idiots" or not your type. Maybe you'll discover that, even if they don't fit your criteria exactly, they can still be good company.

Dark Cobra

So basically what you're telling me is to pursue relationships with people I am not attracted to to gain "experience"?

Stiletto One

All right! Fine! I give up!

If you're going to insist on twisting everything we say in such a manner that they lose all relevance/meaning, then why do you even bother continuing to reply to this thread (which you started, incidentally)?

Geez.

Dark Cobra

I'm not twisting anything. You people are simply telling me to do crazy or unreasonable things.

Chicken Girl

you mean, like, stop assuming everyone except for you is an idiot?