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-RRH- · 03-19-2003, 07:50 PM

The one that doesn't have any members anymore.

sakrilege · 03-20-2003, 04:11 AM

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Originally posted by christ-on-a-stick
Sometimes I've thought that because there are so many "lapsed" and "in-name-only" Catholics and Jews, they may seem to actually RETAIN more people who continue to "identify" as Catholic or Jewish but don't actually go to church/synagogue, pray, or think about their religion much in general but still self-identify just as a matter of tradition or apathy.

Interesting to note that these religions are the oldest of the Abramaic line. Muslims, protestants & fundamentalists are all 'younger'. Much like the idealism of youth vs the wisdom of age.

Sarpedon · 03-20-2003, 12:13 PM

I'm willing to bet its judaism (highest per-capita, that is) because of the fact that jews are the best educated of all religious groups. (I get that statistic from the book, "the Bell Curve." as well as other sources). Also, its got the most primitive world-view, being one of the oldest religions. We should do a poll.

keyser_soze · 03-20-2003, 12:23 PM

Do you think education is linked to agnosticism/atheism? I did see a lot less jesus freaks in college...but the ones that were there...Boy were they nuts. I mean like straightjacket quality. Constantly annoying people, throwing hissy fits over every little thing. The hoops the uni went through to placate those rejects was amazing.:banghead: Course I slept with half of the BCM group(baptist church minstries)...They were freaking perv's. Seems like priests that way, they speak and act one way, but get them alone and they have no self control. They were well known to be the most bizarre people on campus. The pressures of living such a dual existance in one's mind has to be staggering. No wonder the majority of them burned out early and went back to being cashiers in their neighborhood kroger. Stop me, I'm on a tear now!

Strawberry · 03-20-2003, 02:29 PM

Kroger! I haven't heard anyone talk about Kroger since I lived in West Virginia...

I think that the more fundamental a religion is, the more deconverts there will be, because the fundamental religions allow much room for spiritual abuse (some of them are literally not far from cults--Amish, for example, isolate members as completely as possible from social interaction with outsiders). My guess is that the deconverts will also crash harder and be angrier and more vocal when they leave, because they leave a system that allowed them very little personal choice or dignity.

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03-20-2003, 12:13 PM	#13
Sarpedon Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Minnesota, the least controversial state in the le Posts: 8,446	I'm willing to bet its judaism (highest per-capita, that is) because of the fact that jews are the best educated of all religious groups. (I get that statistic from the book, "the Bell Curve." as well as other sources). Also, its got the most primitive world-view, being one of the oldest religions. We should do a poll.

03-20-2003, 12:23 PM	#14
keyser_soze Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: god's judge (pariah) Posts: 1,281	Do you think education is linked to agnosticism/atheism? I did see a lot less jesus freaks in college...but the ones that were there...Boy were they nuts. I mean like straightjacket quality. Constantly annoying people, throwing hissy fits over every little thing. The hoops the uni went through to placate those rejects was amazing.:banghead: Course I slept with half of the BCM group(baptist church minstries)...They were freaking perv's. Seems like priests that way, they speak and act one way, but get them alone and they have no self control. They were well known to be the most bizarre people on campus. The pressures of living such a dual existance in one's mind has to be staggering. No wonder the majority of them burned out early and went back to being cashiers in their neighborhood kroger. Stop me, I'm on a tear now!

03-20-2003, 02:29 PM	#15
Strawberry Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Lancaster, PA/Toronto, ON, Canada Posts: 627	Kroger! I haven't heard anyone talk about Kroger since I lived in West Virginia... I think that the more fundamental a religion is, the more deconverts there will be, because the fundamental religions allow much room for spiritual abuse (some of them are literally not far from cults--Amish, for example, isolate members as completely as possible from social interaction with outsiders). My guess is that the deconverts will also crash harder and be angrier and more vocal when they leave, because they leave a system that allowed them very little personal choice or dignity.

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