ex-xian

I've heard that strippers usually pay more attention to girls in the clubs than the guys. They even let the touch during lap dances. Any truth to this?

Viti

Sure, there are hustlers who try to take advantage. One dance = one song. If the girl does not stop dancing and the guy doesn't tell her to stop she may continue to try get the extra dance. One way to prevent this is to pay the dancer ahead of time, but the easiest way is to say "thank you" and pay her at the end of the song...stand up to get your wallet out if you have to. This is business and the girls are going to try to get what they can as in any business negotiation.

Sure it happens...as long as men are willing to pay for sex and women are willing to have sex for money prostitution will happen...it ain't going anywhere. I was just stating that most Vegas strip clubs are not fronts for widespread prostitution for the most part. It happens infrequently, and usually the girl gets caught.

Too many variables to generalize. Some states allow touching on all dances, some girls refuse to dance for other women, some prefer it (I liked it...women are soft and they smell good usually).

sullster

Greatly enjoying all your comments and observations. Most of the guys seem to share a feeling about strip clubs which I used to have, that there is something numbing about them. Watching the first girl was always a sensual overload. Yet, after a few it all becomes a bit stale and actually quite ridiculous. How a guy could go to these places night after night was incomprehensible to me.

I would like to ask the women out there, about the reasons that there are few places where men strip for a female audience.
I have my ideas on this subjuct. I have always felt that the female body is vastly more sensual than the male, and thus women have less innate interest is seeling men naked due to the blandness of male senusality. Then, being male, I don't see that much that is attractive about the male body when compared with the female. Naked man, naked woman, no comparison. Woman wins every time.

Years ago there was a lot of anger at strip joints from feminists. These places were the ultimate example of male sexual oppression of women by reducing them to being only objects of male lust. What happened to these ideas? Do women feel objectified and oppressed by the existence of the strip clubs? Are strip clubs actually some sort of female revenge on mindless male ogling? Maybe today's generation of young women just don't have a big problem with these places, and that is what I suspect.

Monkeybot

Actually, a bunch of my girl friends and I really wanted to go to a male strip club. We were crushed to learn there aren't any around here, though

I'd say I wanted to go mainly out of curiosity and, well, because it sounds fun. (or at least, funny!)

Jacey

If you're in for a little drive check out Pure Pleasure in Richmond, Va......there's a girl's side and a guy's side. Not that I've ever been there or was asked to dance there or anything like that.........

Corwin

There's one like that here in portland too.... out in northeast. Um.... *thinks* It's out on killingsworth. Never been but I've seen ads....

Viti

We have a club here where both guys and girls dance. As I stated before...most male strippers do steroids...steroids make men smell bad and have bad acne and sweat like pigs. Getting a lap dance from a smelly sweaty guy covered in pimples is NOT arousing.

If you want to see men dance, see one of the stage type review shows like Chippendales or Thunder from Down Under...it's a choreographed show and not up close and personal...you can see nice bods and buns and get drunk with your friends and have a good time.

Viti

As for the feminism issue...I was raised that the goal of feminism was to give women choices, but some feminists think we should all make the choices they find acceptable...isn't this just like theism? Isn't it still just dictating morality to say "participating in A is WRONG"? I guess I am not a True Feminist then, because I think anything a woman freely chooses to do (do I need to add the non-harmful qualifier or do you guys know to include it?) is okay.

Bill Snedden

Ha! No "True Scotsman", eh?

It seems to me that this seems to be the way that most "liberalizing" movements eventually play out. They start out with a wonderful ideal and then some group gets in there, takes advantage of a leadership vacuum, and starts dragging the movement towards its own agenda.

I'm with you, LS. A "True Feminist" (tm) is one who advocates a woman's freedom to make and live by her own choices.

Regards.

Bill Snedden

Loren Pechtel

I'm talking about getting him hot but holding back a bit if they believe he still has money.