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Corona688 · 01-07-2003, 05:45 PM

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Originally posted by JusticeMachine
I disagree. This country is founded on the belief of objective rights:

Declartion of Independence: We hold these Truths to be self-evident (This is the premise that we founded our country on and it implies objectivity), that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator(and this it the source of that objective belief) with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness

...Not quite. The laws of the United States of America are based upon the Constitution, NOT the Declaration of Independence.

beyelzu · 01-08-2003, 06:01 AM

so many people argue that the masses need the moral framework of religion. yet, atheists make up a disproportionately small percentage in prison populations. and on a personal basis, the atheist i know are all ethical people who seem to have no problem with describing certain things as right and wrong. morality is subjective anyway. morality is rules that make life as social creatures possible. in no way is it necessary to function. and think one day we will get farther away form christiantiy and other theistic religions. it is my hope that one day society will be based on objectivism. but i think that it will take generations. because of the supremacy of faith over reason in religious systems

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01-08-2003, 06:01 AM	#42
beyelzu Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: the peach state ga I am a metaphysical naturalist Posts: 2,869	so many people argue that the masses need the moral framework of religion. yet, atheists make up a disproportionately small percentage in prison populations. and on a personal basis, the atheist i know are all ethical people who seem to have no problem with describing certain things as right and wrong. morality is subjective anyway. morality is rules that make life as social creatures possible. in no way is it necessary to function. and think one day we will get farther away form christiantiy and other theistic religions. it is my hope that one day society will be based on objectivism. but i think that it will take generations. because of the supremacy of faith over reason in religious systems

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