Celsus

To all:

This is an atheist board, but we do try to have serious discussions here in which we would like people to debate in good faith. Mocking from either side of the fence is not going to happen in this forum, or this thread will be locked. Thank you.

Joel
BC&H Moderator

Amos

Wrong! God created man and male and female he created them. Adam and Eve did not enter the scene until after the fall as it is described in Gen.3 . They were creations of their own imagination and this happened after their eyes had been opened. Adam and Eve are imposters and that is why they were banned from Eden.

RED DAVE

Mocking is not my primary function. However, it does slip through occasionally.

My primary concern here is to engage in inquiry and debate.

RED DAVE

Calzaer

I would also like to know where the alleged protestant (ie, sola scriptura adherent) gets his "satan's fall" story. It can't be from *gasp* CATHOLIC ORAL TRADITION, can it? Oh dear! He's a heretic!

EstherRose

I am asking this of the moderators: does this statement reflect the views of this board and majority of it's members?

This seems rather illogical to me. There are so many possible reasons not to answer someone's post. If these are the rules of debate followed here, I'd like to know.

winstonjen

Well, when a response is not posted within a reasonable amount of time, I think that's a fair position to take. There are some threads Magus participated in where he did not respond to questions for weeks, and he is yet to respond.

Celsus

Hi Esther,
Of course not. The board does not have any position on the debates held here (that would simply be an impossible task for the administrators to keep up with). However, people who post continuously and ignore all the counter-arguments placed before them are employing the fallacy known as special pleading (and are often regarded as trolls). In such cases, pointing this out is often useful to document all the evasions. This view may or may not be a general view here at II among the users--we've never asked.
There are no official rules of debate (there are plenty on decorum of course) although it has been discussed in the past.

Joel

RED DAVE

While I'm waiting for Magus to reply to my questions about God creating evil, let me post another question, which I especially love to hear the answers to.

This is especially for EstherRose:

How can you justify a God of universal love who sends innocent people to hell just because they have not succumbed to the recruitment efforts and propaganda of His minions, who are killing and torturing their people?

Don't forget my great-grandmother, dead at the hands of the nazis, who you relegated to hell. And you admitted that the nazi that killed her could repent and go to heaven.

RED DAVE

Celsus

Hi Dave,

That looks like an EoG or GRD thread. Perhaps you'd like to start it there instead of here?

Joel

RED DAVE

Your call, Joel.

Since this thread started here with "Some (very ignorant) Questions," I'd just as soon keep it here since there is some play.

RED DAVE