integral domain

Cool!

godlessmath

More than likely true.

I recall now an article I read in Discover magazine some time ago. It was about a guy who would only eat food that grew naturally in his region. He lived in Arizona, I believe, so he ate things like cactus, desert fruits, rabbit (?), and whatnot. His claim was that the food industry is very wasteful because it tries to grow things where they shouldn't be grown. He claimed that if everybody ate regional foodstuffs we would solve many environmental issues.

integral domain

He's probably right... but "forgein" foods are so much a part of my diet now... I don't think I could live like he does. No bannanas? no mangos? Plus, I live in the midwest... and unfortunately, I can't hibernate all winter, so... I'll just stick with the vegetarianism for now. But maybe if I moved to Costa Rica, eating only native food might not be so bad.

godlessmath

Agreed, the guy was a little over the top.

My roommate in college was a vegetarian, for health reasons. He was always kinda skinny, but then junior year we started eating a lot of bad food and he got fat. Actually, he asked me what to do and I suggested that he stop eating meat.

Jabbersnacky

I was raised a vegetarian. i totally agree with it. I'm not one now though ironically. i guess I'm one of those morally inconsistent people. I'm an animal lover absolutely, the kind that bawls it's eyes out when I have an injured bird die in my care. I have been in the past involved in animal rights movements, I'm an environmental activist, and an anarchist.

So why do I eat meat? it comes down to 2 reasons, I crave it, like it, want it, and I'm a terrible cook when it come to vegetables. I'm also financially strapped and can afford the fancy premade fake meats, they are really expensive here. there really is no excuse though and i feel guilty about it all the time especially saying as how my parents have maintain their vegetarianism for so long and some how I fell off the wagon and can't get back on. i attempt it every once in a while, and then some lamb chop or Sashimi or even ground beef calls to me and i buckle. i don't know maybe it's some mineral deficiency or something, or maybe I'm just a closet cannibal in denial. It's weird though every time i eat it i feel guilty and every time I abstain I desire it almost more than sex.

i do eat organic free range humanely raised animal when i can, and avoid any battery farmed animal products, but again sometimes it comes down to cost, and I can always afford to eat morally. i wish i could though.

integral domain

Jabbersnacky: Well... maybe when you're in a better financial situation you can be vegetarian again. Are you a college or grad student?


Godlessmath: THat's cool... though... I actually gained wieght after becoming a vegetarian. It seems that whatever I don't eat in meat I eat in chocolate.

avalanche:ix

i'm a carnivore, all the way. well, i also eat a lot of cheese, but that's secondary. i have to have my daily meat, period. honestly i don't see what could be considered 'immoral' about it. it's just nature, ain't it? just about everything on this planet is food to something. we're just the lucky animals who get to be on top of the foodchain.

integral domain

I see your point... but look at it this way: Suppose aleins come to earth who were vastly more intelligent and in every other way completely superior to us... they are even at a higher level of consciousness... to the point the can't even communicate effectively with our feble minds. They discover we taste good and decide "well... they're so inferior to us... and they don't seem to have our never of consciousness... and they kill each other anyway... so why not eat them?" You would probably think they were evil and try to destroy them all (which we couldn't do of course). Am I right? So it's kind of hypocritical to think that you're the only species in the universe that has a right not to be eaten... and that it's ok to eat lesser creatures.... if you're not willing to accept that it's ok for higher being to comsume us.

Oolon Colluphid

As a hardcore evolutionist, I have not the least problem eating any animal. I am a heterotroph; I lack chlorophyl. I have to eat something, and this will involve killing that something. It is ludicrous to refrain from killing animals while merrily killing plants. Bothered about 'exploiting' animals? Then you're a speciesist (unless you are on hunger strike).

DT

avalanche:ix

there is no right and wrong, if they want to eat me, they'll have to do it after getting shot in the face with my shotgun, which i don't have, but i'll be sure to get one when the invasion comes.