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Jayhawker Soule · 10-31-2002, 12:27 PM

Zentraedi, do you have a point other than some generic defense of placebos?

[ October 31, 2002: Message edited by: ReasonableDoubt ]

xeren · 10-31-2002, 12:27 PM

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Originally posted by Zentraedi:
I don't believe if a god exists, it would have morals.

[ October 31, 2002: Message edited by: Zentraedi ]

okay now i am confused. then why are arguing that you need to have religion to have morals?

Mageth · 10-31-2002, 12:32 PM

Add this Z quote to the confusion:

I don't know. I would guess it was imagined by man. Whatever works.

Zentraedi · 10-31-2002, 12:34 PM

All societies are rooted from religions. No society has existed that is not rooted from a religion.

xeren · 10-31-2002, 12:37 PM

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Originally posted by Zentraedi:
All societies are rooted from religions. No society has existed that is not rooted from a religion.

Fantstic. Now answer the question. You say that atheists borrow their morals from religion. Where did religion get its morals?

Aaannnssswwweeerrrr.

Viti · 10-31-2002, 12:38 PM

Zentraedi....here's a novel idea! Why don't you make a point? How about a full statement of your views and opinions?

Your entire opening post was a series of questions...based on these questions we assumed you held a particular set of views. Your later responses may or may not negate our assumptions...so just to clarify everything just tell us what you think....or answer your own questions from the OP.

Zentraedi · 10-31-2002, 12:38 PM

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Originally posted by xeren:


okay now i am confused. then why are arguing that you need to have religion to have morals?

You are putting words in my mouth.

Zentraedi · 10-31-2002, 12:40 PM

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Originally posted by LadyShea:
Zentraedi....here's a novel idea! Why don't you make a point? How about a full statement of your views and opinions?

Your entire opening post was a series of questions...based on these questions we assumed you held a particular set of views. Your later responses may or may not negate our assumptions...so just to clarify everything just tell us what you think....or answer your own questions from the OP.

There are to many people attacking me that's why!

Autonemesis · 10-31-2002, 12:41 PM

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Originally posted by Zentraedi:
Its your opinion that religion has no influence in creating the constitution of the United States?

It had no influence in the final product. The founders wisely decided not to base the constitution on religious doctrine. The USofA is the first nation founded on secular principles alone.

xeren · 10-31-2002, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zentraedi:
You are putting words in my mouth.

No i am not. I believe you said the following:

"How would your morals work in a non-religious society? You�d probably base them off the ones you already know of. (Formally religious-based ones)"

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Mageth Contributor Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Deep in the heart of mother-lovin' Texas Posts: 29,689	Add this Z quote to the confusion: I don't know. I would guess it was imagined by man. Whatever works.

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Zentraedi Regular Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Anytown, USA Posts: 103	All societies are rooted from religions. No society has existed that is not rooted from a religion.

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Viti Contributor Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Down South Posts: 12,879	Zentraedi....here's a novel idea! Why don't you make a point? How about a full statement of your views and opinions? Your entire opening post was a series of questions...based on these questions we assumed you held a particular set of views. Your later responses may or may not negate our assumptions...so just to clarify everything just tell us what you think....or answer your own questions from the OP.

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