SanDiegoAtheist

If you don't have 'wants' you can't 'do' anything. Think about it.

Doing something implies a change in the status quo. This means that God evidently 'wants' the status quo to be something else. Otherwise it'd be perfectly static.

No 'wants' == no 'purpose' == no 'action'.

Ergo, God is imperfect, and, by definition, he doesn't exist.

Cheers,

The San Diego Atheist

7thangel

Yup, what difference too does it make if he will send you to hell? Though I do not believe in hell. No need to answer, really.

I actually just have in mind the robot-God relationship, of which I want to ask you, "Is it therefore just for God to chose whomever He will, and that such existence of evil is mere way of showing our glory for not being created as evil?"
Could you answer this too, Jamie, if you don't mind.

Philosoft

I don't think I understand. I do think any talk of "glory" with respect to God is rather silly.

7thangel

It is not wants, it is our nature that makes us do anything. Some people want sex 5X a day, but when you turn 70 that will just be an illusion. I mean, we do not pick what we want ourselves, it just go into our system. What do you think, does a lesbian really want to have sex with an opposite sex?

What I mean is that God is actually responsible for your wants, being embedded in your physical being.

Wanting is just an illusion, like free will. When you're a man you want a woman in bed, you cannot chose another man in bed. Unless you have a nature we call, gay.

God did not plan to be God, He just IS!

7thangel

I actually agree, because the "glory" I speak of is after man's perspective. In that case, whatever God does, it will not even make Him evil or good either. That is, if we speak in God's perspective.

I am late, I would like to stress something but I need to go.....

lpetrich

That's a bad analogy, because human parents are far from being either omnipotent or omniscient.

lpetrich

Except that being able to walk on water would make it unnecessary to use a boat.

fatherphil

i can appreciate its limitations, but it still does help me understand some of the dynamics around the relationship.