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yguy · 04-24-2003, 03:29 PM

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Originally posted by Kimpatsu
No, but they mean a large portion.
One of the things that killed the Aztecs was that Cortez's appearance fulfilled a doomsday prophecy, and many Aztecs just gave up and surrendered to the inevitable.

Of course it was only inevitable because they were dumb enough to believe the prophecy - and that is because they put their faith in authority figures; because it is easier to a selfish person to accept slavery than it is to realize that slavery is inimical to human nature.

yguy · 04-24-2003, 03:44 PM

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Originally posted by keyser_soze
I don't see europe's more compassionate and understanding sexual mores as being destructive to them.

Earlier in this thread I posted this about Holland, the beacon of sexual license to the world, and #1 European breeding ground for radical Islamic fundamentalism:

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http://www.arabeuropean.org/News/ael-holland1.html

During the week of lectures held by Dyab Abou Jahjah the interest within the community was very high and the enthusiasm was total. Also membership is booming, we started the week with 250 registered members and ended it with 550 members and new members are still flowing by dozens. Abou Jahjah told our correspondent tonight that he believes the Dutch branches will be one of the strongest branches of the AEL. He added that even though our community in Holland has a better socio-economical situation than in Belgium , the anti-Muslim attitudes in the Netherlands are more aggressive and outspoken."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/elsewhere/...781449,00.html

Mr Abou Jahjah, who has organised "lively" pro-Palestinian demonstrations in Antwerp and who doesn't hide his sympathies with groups such as Hezbollah and Hamas, would seem, however, to mark a change in tactics.

Kimpatsu · 04-24-2003, 03:45 PM

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Originally posted by yguy
Of course it was only inevitable because they were dumb enough to believe the prophecy - and that is because they put their faith in authority figures;

Yes, like all these dumb Xians who put their faith in Christ.

keyser_soze · 04-24-2003, 03:59 PM

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Originally posted by yguy
Earlier in this thread I posted this about Holland, the beacon of sexual license to the world, and #1 European breeding ground for radical Islamic fundamentalism:

550 new members during a rally is telling you that Holland is a hotbed for islam? You truly are lost. That many are converted in Britain in a weekend. Luckily, that many fundies are probably de-converted in a weekend, or we'd all be on big wood piles...

As it is, you have shown nothing. Number 1, Holland IS not Europe. Overall, pregnancy and STD's are lower in Europe, as the study presented shows. All you have to rebut is ignorance and blanket generalizations from some jackbooted militant fundy sites. You are long on rhetoric, and very damned short on substance. You have offered no proof, the same as DK. You have offered nothing other than hot air. You offer no research, hell, you don't even offer anecdotal evidence that gay marriage in america(sorry, but living together 20 years counts as marriage in my book, but since it wasn't at your fundy altar, I guess you don't count it) is destroying it any more than it already is! DK apparently is afraid of some guy coming along and hitting on him(his homophobia is at least recognizable, I don't think you are homophobic so much as just fundiwarped--two points for you, you potential to free yourself, while DK is about as salvageable as an old redneck in the south is likely to become civilized).

DK, man I've never seen someone in need of a good screwing as much as you. You make nazi-femmes look relaxed. At least they have more than ONE complaint about their enemies. You apparently only want one thing in life, and that is the extinction of every gay male on the planet.

yguy · 04-24-2003, 04:39 PM

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Originally posted by keyser_soze
550 new members during a rally is telling you that Holland is a hotbed for islam? You truly are lost. That many are converted in Britain in a weekend.

If they are converted by a group which countenances the actions of Hezbollah and Hamas, I'd say Britain has something to worry about. Wouldn't you?

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As it is, you have shown nothing. Number 1, Holland IS not Europe.

How is this significant, since Holland has so many economic and cultural ties to the other European countries? Does this mean if a woman has breast cancer she doesn't have to worry about it metastasizing?

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Overall, pregnancy and STD's are lower in Europe, as the study presented shows.

I haven't addressed STD's. I'm talking about moral decay.

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All you have to rebut is ignorance and blanket generalizations from some jackbooted militant fundy sites.

Are you talking about the AEL site? Otherwise, I'm not aware of having linked to any "fundy" sites while on this board.

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You are long on rhetoric, and very damned short on substance. You have offered no proof, the same as DK.

By the time there is enough proof to satisfy you, it will be way too late. Of course you'll likely be dead by the time anything ugly happens, so who cares, right?

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You have offered nothing other than hot air. You offer no research, hell, you don't even offer anecdotal evidence that gay marriage in america(sorry, but living together 20 years counts as marriage in my book, but since it wasn't at your fundy altar, I guess you don't count it) is destroying it any more than it already is!

Your last sentence is grammatically nonsensical. Taking a stab at what I think you mean, I have never said that gay marriage by itself would destroy the institution any more than any one particular swing of the axe fells a tree.

If you mean that marriage has already been destroyed, then why not allow incestuous and bestial marriages too?

keyser_soze · 04-24-2003, 05:16 PM

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Originally posted by yguy
If they are converted by a group which countenances the actions of Hezbollah and Hamas, I'd say Britain has something to worry about. Wouldn't you?
As long as the majority of the world thinks for itself, fundamentalism will never reign. The only people who had a shot at it were the catholics, and they were eventually leveled

How is this significant, since Holland has so many economic and cultural ties to the other European countries? Does this mean if a woman has breast cancer she doesn't have to worry about it metastasizing?
WTF? What are you smoking? I fail to grasp(or even concieve) of where you found the tie in between gay marriage and breast cancer.

I haven't addressed STD's. I'm talking about moral decay.
I think I'll let the thousand other people who saw RIGHT through you to address that

Are you talking about the AEL site? Otherwise, I'm not aware of having linked to any "fundy" sites while on this board.

By the time there is enough proof to satisfy you, it will be way too late. Of course you'll likely be dead by the time anything ugly happens, so who cares, right?
Pray tell, my foolish young friend...what the hell are you on about? Not another conspiracy nut. Damn, I hate those. Please tell me you aren't one of those. Geez, you wouldn't have a survival shelter would you?

Your last sentence is grammatically nonsensical. Taking a stab at what I think you mean, I have never said that gay marriage by itself would destroy the institution any more than any one particular swing of the axe fells a tree.
Then what would be the primary cause? Let me guess, those pesky "free-thinkers".
If you mean that marriage has already been destroyed, then why not allow incestuous and bestial marriages too?You have mistaken us with that made up creature who tried to screw every animal IN THE BEGINNING. You see, it's really only old testament characters, and good 'ol boys from the south that have this particular problem. But by all means, hoist up those straw men

yguy · 04-24-2003, 06:13 PM

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Originally posted by keyser_soze
If they are converted by a group which countenances the actions of Hezbollah and Hamas, I'd say Britain has something to worry about. Wouldn't you?

As long as the majority of the world thinks for itself, fundamentalism will never reign. The only people who had a shot at it were the catholics, and they were eventually leveled

So if Muslims in Britain were under the tutelage of Hamas and Hezbollah sympathizers, would Britain have anything to worry about or not?

keyser_soze · 04-24-2003, 06:27 PM

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Originally posted by yguy
So if Muslims in Britain were under the tutelage of Hamas and Hezbollah sympathizers, would Britain have anything to worry about or not?

No, not really. You might be surprised, but there is no islamic-gay-atheist-womens-minority-communist-shadow government who is trying to destroy your cheezy little lifestyle. Go back to your fallout shelter and rations. Don't forget to collect some ammunition for the END IS NEAR party...Oh wait, you obviously aren't expecting that this week, or you wouldn't be so upset that some pinko conspiracy is trying to invade your neighborhood.

yguy · 04-24-2003, 07:25 PM

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Originally posted by keyser_soze
Originally posted by yguy:
So if Muslims in Britain were under the tutelage of Hamas and Hezbollah sympathizers, would Britain have anything to worry about or not?

No, not really.

Congratulations. You have just shown yourself to be every bit the spokesman for atheism that Fred Phelps is for Christianity.

keyser_soze · 04-24-2003, 07:32 PM

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Originally posted by yguy
Congratulations. You have just shown yourself to be every bit the spokesman for atheism that Fred Phelps is for Christianity.

Is that really the best you can do? So apparently you and dk ARE cut from the same fundy cloth, all rhetoric, and specious claims. You are seriously pathetic. Try reading a book sometime, preferably a history book. And by history, I don't mean that book you THINK is history.

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