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Old 07-23-2003, 01:43 AM   #31
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What evidence supports the view that God doesn't exist? Do you have all the evidence available in the universe? That is arrogance winston and you know it. There is no evidence that denies the existence of God.

And no, the thing supporting my view is reassurance from God himself. All the evidence in the universe can't top that.
Here, you say:

There is no evidence that denies the existence of God

Ask yourself your own question, then: Do you have all the evidence available in the universe?

That's arrogance, Magus; since you can apparently spot it, you should know it.

In any case, one thing that "supports the view that your God doesn't exist" is the total lack of evidence of his existence. What, would you expect us to find a big plaque that said "God Doesn't Exist" or something?

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the thing supporting my view is reassurance from God himself

How do you know it was from God himself? Did you see the big dude?

And are you talking about a personal experience? If so, that kind of personal experience may be used to support your belief to yourself (though there are problems with that - how do you know the reassurance was truly from God?) but is useless in support of your beliefs to others.

Anyway, I'd suggest taking any continued discussion along the existence line to EoG.
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How about the disproval of Biblical 'science' and the contradictory nature of the deity?



Biblical "science" hasn't been disproven, you just assume it has. Since science doesn't have all the answers, nor can it determine any as fact, it can never disprove the Bible.

And God is only contradictory to the atheist. I see absolutely no contradiction with God's nature.
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This adds a whole new meaning to "hung on the cross. . . ."

Incidentally, Stalin did not murder in the name of atheism.

People did murder in the name of religion.

Not that facts seem to matter. . . .

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Who cares if they did it in the name of religion? It doesn't mean they were doing the right thing, or following the teachings of the religion. "Love thy neighbor" and "turn the other cheek" does not mean go slaughter the infidels. Islam is the religion that commands that, not Christianity. Its just a classic sign of not everyone who calls themselves Christian, actually is.
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Who cares if they did it in the name of religion? It doesn't mean they were doing the write thing, or following the teachings of the religion.
LOL! You expect us to take you seriously with those grammar and spelling skills? They don't befit a 4.0 GPA!

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"Love they neighbor" and "turn the other cheek" does not mean go slaughter the infidels. Islam is the religion that commands that, not Christianity. Its just a classic sign of not everyone who calls themselves Christian, actually is.
Perhaps you should take your own advice and stop acting so hateful towards atheists.

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Biblical "science" hasn't been disproven, you just assume it has. Since science doesn't have all the answers, nor can it determine any as fact, it can never disprove the Bible.
Do you have anything that proves the bible? It's time to put up or shut up. There is evidence against the flood and against King Herod's infanticide. So if the bible is false there, why is it true in other areas?

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Only because your blinders are on and you're not allowed to think for yourself, because you fear being deconverted and going to hell so much.
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Magus: You know for a fact that God doesn't exist, you know for a fact humans evolved from sludge and apes, you know for a fact the world is 5 billion years old

Since there is overhwelmingly more evidence for all the above than any view you've ever put forward to the contrary, yes, I guess most of us are quite happy to view these things as fact. It's your problem if you are too frightened to face reality, sweetheart, not ours.

Magus: How do you know witches didn't actually cast real magic 3000 years ago?

Because there is no such thing as magic, Magus. If you know differently, please present us with the evidence.

Magus: Do you believe the witches in Salem actually casted real spells and magic?

No, of course not. Try reading something other than your Bibble occasionally, Magus. Arthur Millar’s “The Crucible” would be a good starting place to start. The Salem witch trials were most probably the result of religious hysteria, personal vindictiveness and sheer bloody ignorance. Happens all the time (the McCarthy trials of the 1950's, for instance, though in that instance it was political hysteria rather than religious). For crying out loud, Magus, try interracting with the real world once in a while. It really isn't all that bad, you know!
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LOL! You expect us to take you seriously with those grammar and spelling skills? They don't befit a 4.0 GPA!



If you notice, i fixed it. I was typing fast. Sue me.
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If you notice, i fixed it. I was typing fast. Sue me.
Well, if you cared about the content of your posts as much as you do about converting us, you might get somewhere. I type very quickly too, but I always fix any mistakes before posting a message.

And to solve your problem about the sarcasm - simply stop posting. Then there'll be nothing you have to be sarcastic towards.
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Ofili .... well anyway i don't know how i got in this room ..was this thread moved ?
..and the quote about atheists are smarter than believers... no doubt one of my illustrious quotes...

"Your NOT using your brain if you believe in gawd"....or

maybe it was ONE WAY ONE CELL or renounce rapture or

Theists are mindless robots

or: How can Believers be so Illiterate ... Literally 'cause they read the Bable.


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To get the thread somewhat back on topic, Blasphemy is still a crime in Ireland, so far as I am aware.

It rose its ugly head in the last few years when a complaint was raised about a cartoon lampooning the anti-divorce campaign's posters appeared in a national newspaper.

The guy who brought the action persisted in pursuing it through the court system despite being told repeatedly that the offence of blasphemy was so poorly defined that there would never be a hope of winning his case. He took it all the way to the Supreme Court, where he was told by an exasperated bench that he had taken up enough court time, that the court backed up the decision that every court below it had made, and that since he had ignored those rulings he would be liable for all costs.

Ouch!!

The result is that there will never be a succesful prosecution for the offence in Ireland. The result also precludes any necessity to remove it from the books. That type of housekeeping is costly, even if it is desirable to remove such anomolous legislation from the books.
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"Love thy neighbor" and "turn the other cheek" does not mean go slaughter the infidels. Islam is the religion that commands that, not Christianity. Its just a classic sign of not everyone who calls themselves Christian, actually is.
ROTFLMAO!! Oh, Magus, Magus....don't make me have to remind you of those poor damned Amalekites! Since that was an OT story, it's obvious that Judaism teaches "go slaughter the infidels". The Big Guy Himself did not order His people to turn the other cheek, nor love their neighbor--He said "Destroy them". No Christian love involved, since there were no Christians.

You're batting 3 for 3 so far. Keep 'em coming!

Thanks for the news, Nialler. I guess I'll leave my (ahem) controversial T-shirt at home.
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