theyeti

I can't find it now, but the producers of the show put out an FAQ about why they did what they did with the show. In in they mention that they offered Philip Johnson and the DI a chance to participate but they refused. The DI does admit that they'd been offered to participate in only one article that I know of -- complete with a lame excuse as to why they refused -- but everything else they put out made it seem as if they were excluded, thus allowing them to flog their bogus claims of bias. (And in case you're wondering, their excuse is that they didn't want to be relegated to the last episode, and that their "scientists" should be allowed to "rebut" each of the segments in each of the episodes. In other words, a completely unworkable demand.)

theyeti

Albion

And of course they'll be letting real scientists take part in their presentation and rebut each segment. I mean, if that's the right thing to do, the fact that the Evolution programme didn't do it shouldn't stop them rising above the partisanship and taking the opportunity to do it right themselves. If it isn't the right thing to do, they shouldn't complain that other people didn't do it either.

hezekiah jones

theyeti/Albion,

I concede that the DI and the rest of these buffoons bring out the conspiracy theorist in me, but I can't help thinking how much more mileage Meyer and Co. figured they could get out of this thing by generating that massive .pdf file about the series rather than appearing on it themselves.

S2Focus

A "whois" on illustramedia.com (producers of the video) returns the following:


Registrant:
Discovery Media Productions (ILLUSTRAMEDIA-DOM)
PO Box 2711
La Habra, CA 90632-2711
US

Domain Name: ILLUSTRAMEDIA.COM

Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
Discovery Media Productions (20335406O) j.harned@GTE.NET
PO Box 2711
La Habra, CA 90632-2711
US
562-943-0914 fax: 562-943-0914



A quickie google search zeroes on the DIscovery Media Productions web-site at (surprise) www.discoverymedia.org.

A quick peek at www.discoverymedia.org will give you an unvarnished look at the "Unlocking..." producers' true agenda.

A visit to Illustra Media's web-site (www.illustramedia.com) shows that Illustra's sole product is the "Unlocking..." video. Interestingly enough, you'll find nary a link to www.discoverymedia.org anywhere on the Illustra Media web-site.

Illustra media appears to be nothing more than a shell organization for use in the religious right's "stealth" campaign against evolution.

Albion

Oh, well, so much for this all being science and not an attempt to introduce the Christian God into the classroom (I see the video is being offered for sale to schools as well as to the PBS stations). Really, do they think people are totally stupid?

hezekiah jones

Originally posted by Albion
Really, do they think people are totally stupid?

They depend on it.

acidphos

I seem to remember their being a Wells lament also...

cloudyphiz

i actually know the guy who's responsible for this video (my father went to the same church school he teaches at). he insisted on sending me the video, and, believe it or not, i watched it (in torturous agony, i can assure you). he asked me what i thought of it, i told him i'd refrain from commenting so as not to offend him, but i said that if i were a christian i'd be absolutely humiliated by the whole ID "movement" in general, and this anti-science tape specifically. never really heard back from him after that.

-gary

KC

Our local PBS station (KCPT--Kansas City) had a panel discussion afterwards, with Jonathan Wells himself as a member. It also had Christian paleontologist Keith Miller from University of Kansas and Jack Krebs from the Kansas Citizens for Science, who didn't let Wells get away with anthing. But it still gave Wells's views some kind of credibility, much to my disgust.

KC