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Old 05-08-2003, 08:00 AM   #61
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Mate, if you really took my post seriously, your allegedly higher-functioning brain must have foregone the ability to detect sarcasm and humour. I will leave this here to avoid its degeneration into something requiring Moderator action...
Dear Anachronix.

Your ''sarcasim radar'' must be on the ''blink'' either that or you are extreamly sensitive. If you give it out, you must expect to get it back in kind. Unless asked a serious question, we can be as humorous as the comment deserves.
Lighten up a bit, laugh at yourself, lord knows you are a fertile ground for that.

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Dear Oolon Colluphid.

If you understand that we come from a universal position, you will understand that there are no such things as ''time lines''. It's ALL happening at the same time. SO IN REALITY, when did the modern humans manifest themselves into this world, NOW.

The ''Quantum'' understanding of many worlds branching off, is a 3D linear way of seeing. The actual universal understanding is that dimensional worlds, overlay each other, like skins of an onion, separated by frequency diferential interface.
Quantum computers work because they are ''allowed'' to cross the ''interface'' as part of the new understanding this world is being ''allowed'' to access.

There is any amount of ''physical'' evidence as to habitation reaching back beyond (in a time line sense) what is commonally accepted as the start of civilisation. Archeological anomalies are what they are called and raise the same sort of skeptisism as our articles do. The truth is out there whether you are prepared to believe it or not.

''Contrived matter'', matter not for a true purpose.

''Or as it states'', as the article states, not of ''contrived matter''. Written through us, by the universal contacts, who KNOW, because they created it.

Energy can be ''corrupted'', as a human who is lead off it's contracted path is said to be ''corrupted''. Energy that is directed from a pure source, with a pure intent, is pure energy, fractious energy is not pure energy.

A ''pure'' hologramatic form is for example, you, if you are a being and stick to your contract. An impure hologramatic form, is you, if you break your contract.

The ''mind'', the Gift Of Design, is the designer of the Grand Order of Design, which are the multiverses.

There is no way anyone can ''extrapolate'' from 3D observable evidence, as the dimensions are dimensional worlds which are exclusive of each other. 3D worlds have 3D science, 10D worlds have 10D science, extrapolation is impossible.
These other dimensional worlds are ''overlaid'' and are in reality, ''in your face''.
String theorists are down a dead end alley, for they are limited by their 3D view.
The only ''interaction'' between dimensional worlds, is by parallel lives lived by individuals in different dimensional worlds including the 3D world.

Why would we bother to make it up, we have better things to do with our time, than to talk to you. We do this because it is our role in this life at this time to do it. We receive and put the information out as part of our contracted path. If it wasn't, we wouldn't, its as simple as that.

You have a right to your opinion as to our sanity and we would have agreed with you 5 or so years ago if we had been confronted with this information. But what we have learned and gone through over the last 3 or so years, has convinced us of the veracity of our contacts and the information they bring through us.
Do you think we would put ourselves in the ''firing line'' if we were not convinced?
Whatever you may think, we are very rational people and not prone to flights of fancy.

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Who designed your designer?
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PS - I'd like to see a copy of your contract. Do I have one too? I sure don't remember signing one.
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Dear BioBeing.

The ''Designer'', always was and is. No time remember, it's all happening at once.

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PS - I'd like to see a copy of your contract. Do I have one too? I sure don't remember signing one.
Dear BioBeing.

We know the ''gist'' of our contract and part of it is to be mesengers, as we are here on this forum.
If you are a ''being'' you will have a contract and no, you won't remember in your physical life having ''signed'', or agreeing to it. You are supposed to follow your intuitition/gut feelings as to what is ''right'' for you in this life. Remember, what is ''right'' for you, may not be right for anyone else. Follow your own intuition, not what others have to say.

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If you understand that we come from a universal position, you will understand that there are no such things as ''time lines''. It's ALL happening at the same time. SO IN REALITY, when did the modern humans manifest themselves into this world, NOW.
Uh-huh. Therefore if I hold my pen above my desk... thus... and let it go, thus... it only appears that it dropped. “IN REALITY” it was already on my desktop. So it seems it was in two places at once. Ah well.

If my pen ‘was’ already on my desk before I dropped it, it doesn’t need to be dropped in order to get there. Presumably then, there is no point in my replying to you. I don’t actually need to, because if I try, I’ll have already done so. Perhaps I should tell my boss this. I don’t need to do any work, just turn up, because, “when did the completed work manifest itself into this world, NOW.”
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The ''Quantum'' understanding of many worlds branching off, is a 3D linear way of seeing. The actual universal understanding is that dimensional worlds, overlay each other, like skins of an onion, separated by frequency diferential interface.
Riiight. You do realise that there’s a Nobel prize sitting waiting for you if you can demonstrate this, don’t you? I take it you’ve been in contact with Hawking, Greene, Guth, Witten or Smoot? Were they as bowled over as they should be? Perhaps you could share some of the maths involved with us.
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There is any amount of ''physical'' evidence as to habitation reaching back beyond (in a time line sense) what is commonally accepted as the start of civilisation. Archeological anomalies are what they are called and raise the same sort of skeptisism as our articles do.
Bwahahaha! ROTFLMFAO! Oh yes, archaeological anomalies . Bring ’em on, pal, bring ’em on. Name them and shame yourself.
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The truth is out there whether you are prepared to believe it or not.
Oh, I quite agree. So tell me: how exactly does one establish the truth?
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''Or as it states'', as the article states, not of ''contrived matter''. Written through us, by the universal contacts, who KNOW, because they created it.
So you believe it because of... what? Because the voices in your head say so?
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Energy can be ''corrupted'', as a human who is lead off it's contracted path is said to be ''corrupted''. Energy that is directed from a pure source, with a pure intent, is pure energy, fractious energy is not pure energy.
Please define energy.
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A ''pure'' hologramatic form is for example, you, if you are a being and stick to your contract. An impure hologramatic form, is you, if you break your contract.
Typical bloody pseudoreligion . You’re in trouble if you’re naughty, but you don’t know that you’re being naughty. I think you’ll find that a contract that you know nothing about is not generally held to be binding. How can you break it if you don’t know there is one?

And I thought you said it’s all happening in the ‘now’...? In order to break something, it has to be not-broken to start with. Where’s your all-at-once ‘time’ in that?
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The ''mind'', the Gift Of Design, is the designer of the Grand Order of Design, which are the multiverses.
You know this how? More voices?
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There is no way anyone can ''extrapolate'' from 3D observable evidence, as the dimensions are dimensional worlds which are exclusive of each other. 3D worlds have 3D science, 10D worlds have 10D science, extrapolation is impossible.
Thus you show your utter ignorance of mathematics... and hence you rather straightforwardly refute your own claims to knowledge.
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String theorists are down a dead end alley,
Which you’ve told them about, right? I mean, why let them waste their time? Here: you can contact Brian Greene via this page. Don’t waste your time trying to convince us mere message board posters; such momentous knowledge should be passed post haste to those researchers whom it would most benefit. Off you go.
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for they are limited by their 3D view.
Bwahahaha! So suggesting an eleven-dimensional universe-view is being stuck with a three-dimensional universe-view. Of course. Silly me, silly them.
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The only ''interaction'' between dimensional worlds, is by parallel lives lived by individuals in different dimensional worlds including the 3D world.
Perhaps you could explain how all this relates to the adS/CFT correspondence? I could ask you about the effect of NUT-charges too, but the jokes would be too obvious.
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Why would we bother to make it up,
Attention-seeking? Delusion? Money? The sheer fun of it? The kudos of being, to any gullible followers, the ones privileged with the knowledge?
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we have better things to do with our time, than to talk to you.
So have I.
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We do this because it is our role in this life at this time to do it. We receive and put the information out as part of our contracted path. If it wasn't, we wouldn't, its as simple as that.
And hence, it is my contracted path to oppose ignorance and lunacy.
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You have a right to your opinion as to our sanity and we would have agreed with you 5 or so years ago if we had been confronted with this information.
What’s with all this “we” bullshit? You are a single person typing into a sodding computer. The pronoun you require is the perpendicular one.
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But what we have learned and gone through over the last 3 or so years, has convinced us of the veracity of our contacts and the information they bring through us.
Fine. So share. If it’s convincing, I’ll be convinced. If it’s science-fiction mumbo-jumbo, then I’ll reject it and tell you why. So, yet again, where is this convincing evidence? Put up or shut up.
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Do you think we would put ourselves in the ''firing line'' if we were not convinced?
Since when has the conviction with which one holds a notion had any bearing on its veracity?
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Whatever you may think, we are very rational people and not prone to flights of fancy.
Therefore you will have no difficulty sharing the evidence that convinced you, will you?

TTFN, Oolon
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Dear BioBeing.

The ''Designer'', always was and is. No time remember, it's all happening at once.

Cheers

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But, by the same extension, we always were and are too. No designer.

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If you are a ''being'' you will have a contract and no, you won't remember in your physical life having ''signed'', or agreeing to it. You are supposed to follow your intuitition/gut feelings as to what is ''right'' for you in this life. Remember, what is ''right'' for you, may not be right for anyone else. Follow your own intuition, not what others have to say.
I am indeed a biological being, as my name might suggest

And my intuition (as well as my logic, which personally I trust more) tells me that this is bogus!
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But, by the same extension, we always were and are too. No designer.


I am indeed a biological being, as my name might suggest

And my intuition (as well as my logic, which personally I trust more) tells me that this is bogus!
Dear BioBeing.

At some point, you were ''seeded'', your beginning, as it were. If you are, or were a droid, you were created in an energy sense. You have not always been. We, at this point do not fully understand the concept of ''time'', when applied to infinity. We do know however, that each dimensional world has it's own ''perception'' of time. All your lives, in the ''bigger'' sense, are happening at once.

Your ''logic'', that you ''trust'', is learned from your life up to this point. It is subjective and 3D. No more trustworthy than anything else on the earth and subject to change as you learn more.
Your intuition is sourced from your higher self and as such is not of this earth and in this context, objective. The bigger picture that is seen by your higher self, of your life is like looking down on a maze. The way through is easilly seen. You are in the maze and are trying to use logic to work your way through. In reality, you do not know what is around the next corner, for you cannot ''see''. The view your higher self has, enables you to see and this view is given to you via your intuition.
3D logic will never give you answers, it will just raise more questions.

If your ''logic'' tells you that what we are saying is ''bogus'', then you are ''stuck'' with that. A round earth was ''bogus'' once, atoms were a bogus concept once.
Knowledge is the key. You do not know it ALL, so on what basis do you make your judgements?

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