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06-06-2004, 05:03 PM

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I'd say the thing that gives me the most pause about God's alleged pro-life status is the 40-60% of zygotes (fertilized eggs - that magic time when a "new human" is created) that spontaneously abort.

That was my second thought.

My first was the Food Chain.

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06-06-2004, 05:24 PM

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God doesn't kill arbitrarily for fun like humans do. God casts judgement on sinning humans. Just like a Judge doesn't execute a criminal for giggles, God doesn't do it without judgement.

And you are still missing the point. You can't lump all human beings together because some are jerks.

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He did nasty things based on your perspective.

Well, my perspective, and most other atheists on this board. Yes, it's from my perspective. Would you like me try the physical impossibilty of using yours? Or Joe from Jersey City? What other perspective am I going to use?

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Did you live 4000 years ago? Did you know what humanity was like?

Yeah. They're called 'books' and it's called 'reading'. Oh wait, you guys can't trust anything besides that magic book. Everything else is suspect.

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Do you know the mind of God so much so, that you can rationally conclude that you have a better understanding than a perfect, sovereign being? Would it have been better if God let people slaughter the Israelites, halt His plan, and prevent the birth of the Savior of the world?

Well, since I agree that the above mentioned theological psudeo-history/dogma is all bullshit, I just say 'No.' Take that how you want.

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Would it have been better to let a few people live out their physical life, but condemn all humanity past, present, and future to Hell?

Since Hell (TM) doesn't exist, yeah! Letting people live is always cool. Oh, wait... judge...jury...executioner..*mumble*

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There is a greater good at stake, that you apparently can't see.

Apparently? Imagine that. I don't believe Christianity is true.

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I'd much rather God have been harsh with ancient humanity

Of course you would. Wasn't you that was getting smitten mightily, was it? Or drowned. Or stoned, or turned into a pillar of salt.

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and protect the Davidian blood line than let all humanity perish.

Right, cause the Davidian bloodline was important, even though Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit. Or would the Holy Sperm only work on the David Egg? A match made in heaven! Pun intended! And all humanity perishing- wouldn't that be god's fault? Couldn't he just not kill everyone, and roast them in a fire pit? Really, a simple answer here would be great. No riddles, no bible babble. If god is the master of the universe and creator of life, who is 'making' him kill us? And why would his own son's blood be the only thing that could 'appease' him'? And that doesn't even work, cause we're all born as filthy, depraved sinners, right?

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06-06-2004, 05:37 PM

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Right, cause the Davidian bloodline was important, even though Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit.

it wouldn't matter if he wasn't: none of the contradictory lineages assigned to Mary and Joseph qualify for messiahship anyway. "davidian" isn't the only requirement.

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06-06-2004, 05:47 PM	#34
TySixtus Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Rachacha NY Posts: 4,219	Touche! I didn't even think to bring that up, good point. How many generations was it again?

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