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freemonkey · 12-10-2003, 10:23 AM

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do not sink down to the "it's okay to be irrational" school of thought. No, it's not okay to be irrational. My strong views and lack of ignorance and irrationality greatly seperate myself from other people......

So, they've ignored me and I've rejected them. Really, though, it's not me-- it's other people's fault (for being stupid).....

After accepting a few fundamental truths about people and how I greatly differ from the vast majority of people......

So few people are as rational as me. So few are able to think! Until a significant number of people are capable of producing a conversation past "me wants sex" and learn how to properly think and reason (it'll never happen, unless humanity evolves away from emotion-based decision making), I will tend to avoid others......

What passes for intelligence and deep thought among the common individual is something I shall hereby dub as "circus philosophy", the meaning of which is self-evident.

The average individual's ideas are so laughably pathetic and ill-reasoned (most of the time) that hearing them usually makes me hate the person more. The average person's dreams are equally laughable.....

Hey, I have an idea. Instead of wasting your time whining about it, why don't you devote some of that superior intellect finding ways to help raise the average?

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Originally posted by Lord Kenneth I know this post is a lot of rambling, but I feel like a good ramble right now. I apologize.

Ah. It appears you're a fairly normal human being after all.

Queen of Swords · 12-10-2003, 11:09 AM

Originally posted by freemonkey
Ah. It appears you're a fairly normal human being after all.

What a heinous, deadly insult!

freemonkey, I hereby volunteer to be your second. If he picks swords, you pack a pistol.

Monkeybot · 12-10-2003, 11:22 AM

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Originally posted by Lord Kenneth
Due to the way I have been consistently treated by people (my seeminly arrogant attitude is not how I act in public, I do not expect people to understand how intellectual inferior they are-- after all, they are idiots) despite how non-confrontal I am and how generally nice I am...

Look, I don't want this to sound like a personal attack, but I doubt you are completely able to conceal your arrogance, especially if it is as pervasive as your posts would indicate. I wouldn't be surprised if many people you interact with subconsciously realize what contempt you have for them.

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and the lack of intelligence I've heard from all groups of people, from wackos to skeptics alike (many, many skeptics are hypocrites, with the same emotional flaws that I happen to not suffer from-- they may be skeptical about the supernatural but argue with them that love is mostly based on physical appearence and they'll get irrational).

Seriously... get over yourself. You think you don't have emotional flaws? I highly doubt it. I don't know what your particular flaws are, and I'm not going to bother guessing, but everybody has something fucked up about them. It's just part of life, you get "dinged" as you go through it. Nobody's exempt, not even you, no matter how much you may wish to rationalize that away. So show a little humility. It seems pretty irrational to me to have such unattainably high standards for oneself and others.

Moreover, I do disagree that "love" is based on physical appearance. Lust and infatuation, sure. Initial attraction? Yeah, probably. But seriously, physical appearance isn't enough to keep you in a relationship for a long period of time -- you need other non-physical attributes for that.

orpheus last chant · 12-11-2003, 12:33 AM

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Originally posted by Lord Kenneth
[B]Oh, I used to want friends. I felt lonely. But I have matured, I have grown up, I have learned that people aren't everything, in fact most people are NOTHING.

That's not to say I'm don't talk to anyone. Like tools, some people have their uses, even if their use is to entertain.

After accepting a few fundamental truths about people and how I greatly differ from the vast majority of people, I no longer feel about about myself. My self-esteem has gone through the roof, I am much happier now that I no longer try to work with people.

You know what I have noticed in people? The more they know, the greater their knowledge and intelligence, the humbler they are. Einstein, when he came to America, was asked how much he would want for a salary. He thought about it, and said 3000 $. Everyone looked so surprised that he would ask so little (he's Einstein for dog's sake). Einstein thought he asked too much and gave even a smaller number.
Usually, arrogence increases with ignorance. You may be an exception, but if you are content in being the social hermit, why bother coming here and patting yourself on the back, on how you are better than the rest of humanity.

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I'm so much happier alone. Why would I *want* to spend time with another person-- someone who has inferior ideas and beliefs that influence how they act and influence others? I will *not* be an ally to one who helps corrupt this world into even more of a stagnation of ignorance that is currently is.

So do something about it. Whining never helped anything.

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1) Friends do not make life enjoyable. For me, enjoying life is thinking, learning, and reasoning, something roughly 99% of people are able to do properly and consistently (people usually fail on consistency).

For yourself you mean. And I do enjoy thinking and learning. But I enjoy more interacting with people who think alike, and comparing my ideas to theirs. Just sitting alone, will distort your idea of yourself, and inflate your ego. Imagine if scientists did not share their findings, and crosstest their results, and just sat alone, separated from the rest.

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2) Share ideas and dreams? I like listening to what the lowlifes constantly converse about. Something about humanity interests me-- it's like a zoologist studying chimpanzees. Fascinating, but they do piss me off.

Newsflash: Unless you have mutant genes, you are just as a "chimp", and capable of doing "chimp-like" things like any human.

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What passes for intelligence and deep thought among the common individual is something I shall hereby dub as "circus philosophy", the meaning of which is self-evident.

Aaah, I get it. You're the ubermensch. Good to know they walk amongst us.

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I don't see how making friends would help ME, in particular. The more I'm around people, the more I hear what passes for deep thoughts, the worse I feel. Ha, no thanks, if I want to survive I'll do it without hearing someone talk about their laughable ideas regarding, say, abortion.

Another thing I have noticed. No matter how good you are, there is always someone better. You may be a great reasoner, there will be a better one than you. you may know a lot, there's surely someone who has far more knowledge than you. Is that person entitled to regard you as a "lowlife, fascinating to study for lukewarm entertainment, with laughable ideas and hopes"?

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I know this post is a lot of rambling, but I feel like a good ramble right now. I apologize.

Jesus Christ in a chicken basket, you can do emotion stuff like rambling, and even apologise for it? You mean you can err too, like us humans? Gee, I feel like the native south americans who discovered their beloved gods did not shit gold.

:boohoo:

Mr. Neutron · 12-11-2003, 12:56 AM

How did you become a Lord anyway? I didn't vote for you.

DarkBronzePlant · 12-12-2003, 03:01 PM

I can almost hear the collective sigh of relief from the mouths of everyone who might've inadvertantly become Lord Kenneth's friends, save for their ignorance and lack of rational thinking skills.

Harumi · 12-13-2003, 02:46 PM

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Originally posted by Mr. Neutron
How did you become a Lord anyway? I didn't vote for you.

He got it from a woman from a lake distributing random swords to people.

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12-10-2003, 11:09 AM	#22
Queen of Swords Contributor Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Canada. Finally. Posts: 10,155	Originally posted by freemonkey Ah. It appears you're a fairly normal human being after all. What a heinous, deadly insult! freemonkey, I hereby volunteer to be your second. If he picks swords, you pack a pistol.

12-11-2003, 12:56 AM	#25
Mr. Neutron Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Innsmouth Posts: 1,296	How did you become a Lord anyway? I didn't vote for you.

12-12-2003, 03:01 PM	#26
DarkBronzePlant Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: San Francisco, CA USA Posts: 3,568	I can almost hear the collective sigh of relief from the mouths of everyone who might've inadvertantly become Lord Kenneth's friends, save for their ignorance and lack of rational thinking skills.

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