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Kintaro · 04-15-2003, 02:46 PM

Exactly. We don't need you to do it in your OP style, Not to imply that atheists or christians are not real, but a room rigged with all atheists or all christians as an unbiased sample is very hard to attain either way unless you take the first 100 people leaving a church or an atheist meeting.

Get your 10 Q's. Put your claims to the test, because until you do, you're sadly nothing but hot air and a joke. We want to laugh at something funny (i.e. you scoring perfectly, barely making it, failing but with an 80 % mark or whatever), not ironic (i.e. i laughed my ass off when i heard of this ability, but it turns out to be almost as real as Miss Cleo).

xian · 04-15-2003, 02:46 PM

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Originally posted by Duck of Death
I'm still willing to play.

Can you at least post the statements we have to answer?

duck!

but it would be a meaningless test, I already know you are an atheist.

the test is chock full of loaded questions....but the end result will USUALLY (not always) be the same:

a. the person in question will not profess a lack of belief in god(s)
b. i will successfully label the person as "professing atheist" or dismiss them as a "non-professing atheist"

note: non-professing atheist is NOT equal to theist.

Yellum Notnef · 04-15-2003, 02:48 PM

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Originally posted by xian
to all the doubters of my powers:

i can identify atheists.

now, like Christianity, no two atheists will have the exact same views on everything.

but also, like Christianity, there exists certain philosophical viewpoints common to atheists such that in general atheists will agree with them....allowing me to excercise my supernatural power and "pluck them" out of the crowd, so to speak, like a ripe cherry.

But even if you have formulated a specific set of questions that can often "pluck them" out of a crowd,whats so supernatural about it?

I don't get where magic or the supernatural would play a role here.

Duck! · 04-15-2003, 02:50 PM

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Originally posted by xian
but it would be a meaningless test, I already know you are an atheist.

the test is chock full of loaded questions....but the end result will USUALLY (not always) be the same:

a. the person in question will not profess a lack of belief in god(s)
b. i will successfully label the person as "professing atheist" or dismiss them as a "non-professing atheist"

note: non-professing atheist is NOT equal to theist.

I don't get it.

Duck!

Amaranth · 04-15-2003, 02:50 PM

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why is sterotyping a bad idea? If I am being chased by someone, and I see a uniformed police officer, I will make certain healthy stereotypical judgments about that person.

what school brainwashed you into this idea that stereotyping is universally "bad?"

Determining that a police officer will help you in enforcing the law isn't stereotyping, it is identification. Police enforce the law, atheists don't believe in god. If you went further and said that "police officers don't do drugs", that would be stereotyping.

Now - Perhaps you would care to present your stunning questions? I wouldn't be disappointed if you were just trolling, but I think the rest would.

xian · 04-15-2003, 02:50 PM

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Originally posted by Kintaro
Exactly. We don't need you to do it in your OP style, Not to imply that atheists or christians are not real, but a room rigged with all atheists or all christians as an unbiased sample is very hard to attain either way unless you take the first 100 people leaving a church or an atheist meeting.

Get your 10 Q's. Put your claims to the test, because until you do, you're sadly nothing but hot air and a joke. We want to laugh at something funny (i.e. you scoring perfectly, barely making it, failing but with an 80 % mark or whatever), not ironic (i.e. i laughed my ass off when i heard of this ability, but it turns out to be almost as real as Miss Cleo).

did you laugh as hard as I did when you told me how you would post the questions around as if to help conduct the study?

lol. This is MY ability. Now....perhaps other people have this ability...I do not know. All I know is that I have it.

there are only 20 questions in my test. any individual question will not result in a positive identification. only a combination of questions will result in the identification. i have a very particular way i score the test, making it highly accurate to about 80% of professing atheists being identified as such. Basically, if you are an atheist taking my test, and you answer HONESTLY, I will pin you down 8 out of 10 times. Now, dishonest answers, of course, will ruin the experiment. So (unfortunately) honesty must be presumed for identification to succeed. I hope this doesn't diminish the possibility that I have a supernatural magic power.

Goliath · 04-15-2003, 02:53 PM

xian,

Please either post your questions here, so that we may examine them, or concede your argument in the OP of this thread.

Sincerely,

Goliath

Kosmo · 04-15-2003, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xian
to all the doubters of my powers:

...

but also, like Christianity, there exists certain philosophical viewpoints common to atheists such that in general atheists will agree with them....allowing me to excercise my supernatural power and "pluck them" out of the crowd, so to speak, like a ripe cherry.

This is frustrating, do you think that with this umpteenth reiteration of your 'ability' that we still don't understand it? Why are you being so wishy-washy? Why can't you just let us know what these questions are? It might actually lead to a resolution!

Duck! · 04-15-2003, 02:54 PM

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Originally posted by xian
"..., if you passed 20 atheists before me, I could give them a list of statements they will AGREE with that are not questions about whether they believe in the existence of God(s). They will agree with my statements 80% of the time"

Can we please see these statements?

Pretty please?

Really, I'd be interested to see what kind of test could identify atheists 80% of the time without asking them about their beliefs in God(s).

Duck!

Yellum Notnef · 04-15-2003, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xian

there are only 20 questions in my test. any individual question will not result in a positive identification. only a combination of questions will result in the identification. i have a very particular way i score the test, making it highly accurate to about 80% of professing atheists being identified as such. Basically, if you are an atheist taking my test, and you answer HONESTLY, I will pin you down 8 out of 10 times. Now, dishonest answers, of course, will ruin the experiment. So (unfortunately) honesty must be presumed for identification to succeed. I hope this doesn't diminish the possibility that I have a supernatural magic power.

It doesn't just diminish your supernatural abilities,but throws them on the floor and stomps on them.

To claim that this test of yours is a supernatural power is utterly ridiculous and you know it.
Either knock of the foolishness or explain where the supernatural and magic fit into what you said in the above quote.

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04-15-2003, 02:46 PM	#41
Kintaro Regular Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 247	Exactly. We don't need you to do it in your OP style, Not to imply that atheists or christians are not real, but a room rigged with all atheists or all christians as an unbiased sample is very hard to attain either way unless you take the first 100 people leaving a church or an atheist meeting. Get your 10 Q's. Put your claims to the test, because until you do, you're sadly nothing but hot air and a joke. We want to laugh at something funny (i.e. you scoring perfectly, barely making it, failing but with an 80 % mark or whatever), not ironic (i.e. i laughed my ass off when i heard of this ability, but it turns out to be almost as real as Miss Cleo).

04-15-2003, 02:53 PM	#47
Goliath Banned Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Fargo, ND, USA Posts: 1,849	xian, Please either post your questions here, so that we may examine them, or concede your argument in the OP of this thread. Sincerely, Goliath

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